Why is Amadeus Rated so Low
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sarahb2 — 10 years ago(November 10, 2015 10:39 AM)
Amadeus is my #1 favorite film, but I can't give it a 10 because Elizabeth Berridge's Constanze is awful. The woman cannot act. She's the only flaw in the movie.
For my money, 'Back to the Future' is as close to perfection as you can get. Perfect script, perfect casting, not a false note or moment in the entire movie. The only reason it isn't my favorite movie of all time is that 'Amadeus' has a more powerful presence. I saw it in its original run in a classic movie theater (red velvet, gold trim), a 70mm print and Dolby sound, and it blew me away. During the 'amen' in the final 'Lacramosa' you could feel the entire theater rumble. It was awesome! -
mrwnmero — 10 years ago(December 10, 2015 04:19 AM)
I enjoyed this movie so much that I gave it 9/10 which is an ultra high rating by my standards, only 30 movies or so got 9 from me, and only 8 movies got 10/10, from the many hundreds I've watched.
However, Shawshank redemption is on my 10/10 list. I will not bother you with why I love the movie and such But I will only address the three points you stated and try to explain why I think Amadeus is in its right place:
Plot: The strong point of TSR is probably the plot. Yet, the Amadeus plot is ingenious. The Protagonist is Salieri and the Antagonist is GOD. Yet, the story focuses on Mozart.
actually the idea of a plot being a quarrel between two characters which unfolds by telling the story of a third character is not so extraordinary, and also not so "creative". TSR plot has a deeper purpose and a beautiful message.
Awards: Amadeus won more Oscars than TSR. Most people agree that F. Murray Abraham's performance was one of the all-time best.
if you rate a movie depending on the opinion of the "Academy" then you just oblige your own opinion to theirs'.
Music: Maybe this is unfair to list Music as a category. How could any movie compare with Amadeus in that category. Most people rate Mozart as the greatest musical genius of all-time.
of course it is unfair, not just because it is Mozart vs some modern composers, but also because the Music in Amadeus wasn't written exclusively for the movie as is the case with TSR, also when you compare, a musical movie to another movie that doesn't even focus on music at all to find out which has better music, what do you expect the result to be?
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degree7 — 10 years ago(February 23, 2016 03:15 PM)
actually the idea of a plot being a quarrel between two characters which unfolds by telling the story of a third character is not so extraordinary, and also not so "creative". TSR plot has a deeper purpose and a beautiful message.
A movie is not about what it's about, it's about how. Amadeus is about a man with strong moral convictions abandoning them once he sees a man who is above morality and seemingly blessed by God. It is about how Salieri is tortured by the normailty in himself that he sees in the reflection of Mozart's talent. Human beings often see themselves as inferior when compared to others, and this isn't so much a struggle waged against them as it is against ourselves. Amadeus is one of the greatest plays and films ever written.
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yothisisyo — 10 years ago(December 31, 2015 02:23 AM)
I feel same as you especially you can see references of Mozart in Whiplash(2015) which is at #43 and actual movie on Mozart is at #70 .
No offence to Whiplash fans , i like Whiplash too but i feel Amadeus is Awesome and is an epic in its category .
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karenleung081231 — 10 years ago(February 12, 2016 12:24 AM)
i love both films, whiplash is darker than amadeus and impressive than amadeus. whiplash made me think a lot even after 6 months i watched it.
amadeus is a well made film too, but isn't as overwhelmed as whiplash for me -
degree7 — 10 years ago(February 23, 2016 03:08 PM)
Should be in the top 50.
Especially with the amount of crap that's ranked higher! But Amadeus is lucky to be in the list at all, considering films about music and costume dramas ever ally don't rate that highly amongst young people.
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CathBridgers — 9 years ago(April 19, 2016 10:46 AM)
Interesting thoughts. I just watched the director's cut after having seen it in the top 250 and Roger Ebert's Great Movies list and frankly I feel a little underwhelmed. I can see why people think it's great but I didn't feel very impacted by it. I certainly have no quarrel with the historical inaccuracies.
Sometimes I think films that were a little bit before my time have a lesser effect on me. I think also it was strange watching a period drama set in Germany with a cast who largely had American accents, which also happens in Marie Antoinette, a movie I very much enjoyed.
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daddysarm — 9 years ago(May 13, 2016 04:10 PM)
Spending so much time on his operas was a huge mistake. I know why they did it. A film is a visual experience & so is an opera, whereas Eine Kleine or a symphony is not.
But. That decision makes Amadeus the film that always makes me think:
Lord. That could have been genius, just like Wolfie was. -
KhurramAtta — 9 years ago(July 13, 2016 12:25 PM)
because people are filthy plebs these days. They want to watch superhero crap. The want to watch beep feminist remakes. They don't know what quality is. When The Rock is the highest paid actor in the world, you know there's something wrong with cinema.
Amadeus is one of the greatest movies of all time. If it would've been released today, it would've flopped. Thank God for this movie and Milos Forman.
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longcooljolie — 9 years ago(August 13, 2016 07:19 PM)
So, the rating is not too low by IMDB standards: an 8.3.
Amadeus won lots of Oscars, back before they became so political. The movie was not hugely financially successful, but this is because of people's knee-jerk reactions to period dramas. F Murray Abraham's performance probably gets analyzed in college level film and acting courses.
This is a collection film, one that you can watch over and over again and never get tired of because of the music and the performances.
