First, allow me to say that I hate how IMDB removed so many great threads especially on this board. I remember having so
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tinkerchel — 13 years ago(February 15, 2013 08:35 AM)
I think the IMDB staffs delete threads that haven't been active for a while to save space on their website.
It's sad I know. There used to be so many in-depth discussions about this movie as well as others. All gone..
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frog-34 — 12 years ago(September 18, 2013 09:04 AM)
There's another one I thought of quite a while ago but never took the time to write down.
When Mozart tells Salieri that he threw the "Figaro" score into the fire and that Constanze pulled it out in time, take note of how Salieri says "Thank God." It's very, very dry but dripping with irony at the same time. -
Jleiwei — 12 years ago(February 05, 2014 01:51 AM)
In that precise moment Salieri, a religious man, is thinking about HIS OWN damnation, deserved for what he is doing to Mozart.
Well I think quite the contrary. Salieri is hardly a "religious" man up to this point. He's been defying God ever since Mozart came along.
When Mozart asks the quetion, as being very sick, he is obviously thinking about th possibility of being burned forever for all those responsibilities he has neglected in life, especially those to his father. When Salieri answers "yes" he is yelling queitly in his heart "Of course! Don't you see that this is exactly what I have been suffering - being burned by the fire of jealous that never dies? I am living in hell before I even die!" -
Sugarminx — 11 years ago(March 19, 2015 02:56 PM)
When Salieri answers "yes" he is yelling queitly in his heart "Of course! Don't you see that this is exactly what I have been suffering - being burned by the fire of jealous that never dies? I am living in hell before I even die!"
Absolutely. This is exactly the way I've always interpreted Salieri's response. He's been consumed with jealousy and hatred ever since he met Mozart.
I don't think Salieri, at that time, was remotely thinking about going to hell for what he was doing to Mozart, he was too tortured by his own inadequacies and blinded by ambition.
The idea of having to 'pay for his sins' came later, when he was an old man.
What interests me is that Salieri was familiar with Mozart's music, long before he encountered him. Prior to meeting Mozart, he seemed fine - not at all tormented by the other's genius. It was only once he met Mozart that the "madness" began. It was the idea that God could give this genius to a "dirty minded creature" that so repelled Salieri - NOT that someone else was inherently more talented, but that that talent should belong to someone he found so offensive.
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Jleiwei — 10 years ago(April 14, 2015 02:24 AM)
What interests me is that Salieri was familiar with Mozart's music, long before he encountered him. Prior to meeting Mozart, he seemed fine - not at all tormented by the other's genius. It was only once he met Mozart that the "madness" began. It was the idea that God could give this genius to a "dirty minded creature" that so repelled Salieri - NOT that someone else was inherently more talented, but that that talent should belong to someone he found so offensive.
Now this leads to the very meaning of this film: What is the purpose of talents? Salieri believes that talents are created by God to sing God's high glory on the earth, while the talent of Mozart clearly defies this notion. It is like God shouting at the face of Salieri: Why do I want you to celebrate me, you moron? Celebrat love, and youth, and life. That's the best thing you can do with your telent. That's the reason I endow this extreme talent into this exteremly little man, because he konw how to make the best use of it. -
Bree_33 — 10 years ago(May 03, 2015 02:47 PM)
Interesting thread.
As a character study and an exploration of genius and creativity, this movie is beyond parallel.
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TheArtOfBeingRandom34523 — 9 years ago(April 08, 2016 04:08 PM)
It's the second time i'm watching it I realized that Amadeus is the only wig-wearing male character that changes wig various times, whether the other wig-wearing male charcters use the same wig in the entire movie.
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SVU14_1 — 9 years ago(May 21, 2016 09:58 PM)
I noticed that in some of the scenes when Salieri is talking to the priest at night, half of his face is dark i.e. the lighting only shows on side of his face. Perhaps it was to show his incompleteness or his dual nature: he came off as a perfect gentleman but he had dark thoughts; he also acted as Mozart's friend but sought to destroy him behind his back.
A previous poster mentioned Mozart's wardrobe changing for light to dark to signify his downward spiral. Salieri's clothes however remain mostly the same. In a way this may reflect his stagnation. He does not "change" and this leads to his own downfall.
I noticed and felt that this movie was also advocating the idea that one should not be afraid to "think outside the box". It made me think when watching the film just now that perhaps Mozart's genius was not only his innate musical ability but also his willingness to push boundaries and bring something new to the table. This was something that Salieri throughout the whole film never tried to do. Salieri was so fixated on the idea that Mozart was better that he did not try to think outside the box. -
TheArtOfBeingRandom34523 — 9 years ago(May 30, 2016 01:28 PM)
Thank you, very clever analysis, but I don't recall any scene when Salieri talks to a priest AT NIGHT, but I's probably just me, it's been only like 50 days since last time I watched it it and I'm starting to don't remember it, great this is the definitive proof that I have the memory of a goldfish.
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tinkerchel — 9 years ago(January 05, 2017 02:32 AM)
Another little detail I'd like to add:
In the scene where Mozart is composing on a snooker table, while writing music down he casually pushed the ball away without looking, the ball bounced off the walls a couple of times but always arrived right back in his hand.
Someone mentioned it a long time ago, that it's not as easy as it looks. You kinda need a little mathematical knowledge to achieve that little stunt. Many had also made the claim that Mozart's music helps with our logical thinking. Speaking for myself, I often have images of geometrical patterns in my head when I listen to his music, due to its often well-balanced intricate structure. Perhaps he's also gifted in the mathematical field. :}
