What modern musicians are as good as Amadeus?
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yolhanson — 13 years ago(December 11, 2012 02:50 AM)
I was thrown by this. The thread title is much different from the post.
Your list of modern musicians is worthy of merit.
I HAVE to take issue with the comment that Creed could match the talent of Bach and Amadeus (by the way, he's usually referred to by his last name, Mozart, as are all composers). Bach, Mozart and another you may have heard of, Beethoven, are widely regarded as the greatest composers in history. Not always, but widely. Not just composers, they were all virtuoso players in their day. It's comparing apples and oranges, I suppose.
The thing about making a movie would be: to whom would you target it? What would be unique or unusual about those on your list, enough to generate enough interest for a feature film? I mean, I love the music of Bach, but I'd have to think hard about going to see a movie based on his life. He was a stern man of devout Lutheran faith who never travelled outside Germany. He wrote music for his local church and performed it diligentlybrilliantly by all accounts, but, honestly, you might as well make a movie about a reclusive physicist or a university professor. Bach is probably not going to excite many people as a film story, even as his music is adored by millions.
The thing with "Amadeus" is, of course, the lingering legend about the rivalry with Salieri, the rumour of the poisoning and the alleged attempt to steal the Requiem. That's the point of interest. It's not really about composers. It's not a biographical film about Mozart or Salieri. It's about jealousy, mediocrity and, as Salieri said in the film, "unfulfillable longing." It also helps greatly that the film is set centuries ago, so you get that exotic, periodic feel.
A film about anyone on your list would just be pointless, based on the simple fact that they'll be forgotten in a few years. All of them. I'll bet your house on it. They'll all be swallowed up in the continual, commercial vortex of pop music and there'll be a new list to consider.
The great composers remain, however, and there's nothing to replace them. There SHOULD be, but there's not. -
boxerrebellion — 12 years ago(December 12, 2013 09:20 AM)
I agree with your point about the given list being pointless. We would need to look to more enduring talent - McCartney & Lennon, Michael Jackson (his personal life was a mess, but musically he was a genius and his dance ability was phenomenal). I know it is fashionable to laugh at and poo-poo the Bee Gees, but they wrote for themselves across many genres as well as writing across genres for a number of singers.
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grizzledgeezer — 13 years ago(December 23, 2012 05:42 AM)
Your question is fundamentally meaningless, because we're talking about altogether different musical genres.
Mozart is generally considered one of the greatest composers of all time, of any kind of music, of any genre. Period. He wrote music that people continue to enjoy over 200 years after he died, not just because it has "pretty tunes", but because many of his works have intellectual and emotional substance.
If you ever get familiar with Mozart's music (or that of other generally-considered-great composers), I believe you will hear the greatness for yourself, without anyone having to explain it to you. -
parriepenn — 13 years ago(December 31, 2012 02:56 AM)
Mozart is considered to be the greatest musician to have ever lived. He was playing piano at three, was composing at five, and was playing professionally at six. He was not sucessful in just one but many musical genres. Music was composed in his head as a perfect whole. Then, it was a matter of taking dictation. He was exceptional in every way. A true phenomenon.
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karenleung081231 — 9 years ago(August 05, 2016 08:50 PM)
absolutely not the greatest, you forget beethoven who is also born at that period, beethoven is considered to be greater than him about contribution and achievements in classical music since mozart was dead at a young age.
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parriepenn — 9 years ago(August 08, 2016 10:29 AM)
So many criteria, I'm not sure how debatable this subject is. Liszt is considered the greatest pianist of all time. Beethoven was a perfectionist who labored for nine years on his 5th? symphony. Doubtful he was ever completely happy with his work. Mozart won in the facility department. His output was phenomenal. He was also more of a natural showman. Beethoven's father saw what happened with Mozart and tried to capitalize on his son's talent by lying about his age and dragging him around to perform. Beethoven loved music deeply but it wasn't nurtured like it should have been.
Beethoven is my favorite composer. The pain in his work speaks to me in a way that no one else's does. Mozart is a close second. Both of them played an irreplaceable part in music and Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 is a brilliant piece.
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ObservationBlogger — 13 years ago(February 11, 2013 09:33 PM)
Bob Dylan - without a shadow of doubt is the Amadeus of contemporary music. Then there are the rest - salieri's if you will.
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