It's all about being gay
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loveagoodstory — 18 years ago(May 26, 2007 07:50 AM)
No, I'm afraid I don't think they're remotely gay.
Cage spends the film lusting after girls and shagging them. Modine is pretty clearly asexual and obsessed by his own private world.
I don't think the filmmakers had such a message in mind as there's no signs of it anywhere in the script. One could equally well find metaphors for anything from a wobbly slantways look at two or three monikers in the film, while ignoring two hours of dialogue.
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neobowler — 18 years ago(September 25, 2007 02:51 PM)
You can have that for your opinion if you want, but it's not remotely true. The film and story have nothing to do with homosexuality, they things you listed are just stretching and you can stretch that with absolutely anything, yours happens to be a huge stretch, but if you saw that it's ur interpretation i guess.
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Gibski — 18 years ago(December 07, 2007 04:17 AM)
"but if you saw that it's ur interpretation i guess."
yup exactly.it's your personal interpretationand that's fineit has validity.but doesn't mean that it's what "it is".
as i said in another thread on this subject:
" no it's not "clearly about being gay"
it just "can" be interpreted in that wayand a reason why it's been labelled as "gay interest" would probably be cos gay people could watch the movie and "identify/connect/relate" with birdy's character..some of his experiences.anything like that..eg for the reason you described: "cage's character just can't figure out why birdy isn't like most other people". And so they could also relate with a friendship they had with a straight guyand the point where the straight guy accepted that they were different and they stayed friends and things like that
if the movie was "clearly about being gay"then birdy would have been gay in the movieor done something "gay".he doesn't.
there are plenty of other ways that people can be differentand have problemsor anything like thatso plenty of straight people can also relate and identify with either modine's or cage's character and the friendship
So it's not specifically "clearly" about being gayI don't think. " -
gayspiritwarrior — 15 years ago(May 30, 2010 12:34 AM)
Mike, I don't know where your post is coming from. The word "homophobia" wasn't in this thread at all until you used it.
And as I said in another thread, I think the movie is "of gay interest" because both stars are hot and we see them in various states of undress several times.
"The value of an idea has nothing to do with the honesty of the man expressing it."Oscar Wilde -
csue-palmer — 12 years ago(September 19, 2013 01:27 PM)
GAY? No. Why does someone wanting to "fly away from it all" (escape from reality) have to be gay? This is about someone who can't handle his homelife, then finds VietNam to be an even worse situation. His obsession with flying is just that: Escape
And his best buddy(also not gay) hates seeing his friend like this. They go way back and he can't bear to see his friend in this condition.
If you use these metaphors as being "gay", I suppose one could take any subject or any film/book, etc (on the human condition) and apply it to homosexuality.
A GREAT film about the frailty of life and how some people just "fold" and some don't. Not a judgment on those who do buckle. Just that we are all different. Modine's character is so very sensitive; his mind finds "flight" as his defense mechanism.