What happened to Subotai??
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Dancougar82 — 20 years ago(December 14, 2005 01:44 AM)
From what I have heard in the past, Subotai was supposed to be in it, but Lopez wanted too much money for reprising the character, so they (Whatever powers that be,) said no, thats too much, and nixed him, then replaced Subotai with Malak. So I guess storywise Subotai is off having whatever adventures without Conan. Shrug
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magic8ball2112 — 12 years ago(September 26, 2013 10:03 AM)
Sounds about right.
Could've been worse, if you think about it. They could've brought in the actor who played Malak AS Subotai, yet have him portray Subotai in no way like the original. Kind of like what happened when Kirstie Ally was replaced in
Star Trek III
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Xeokym — 15 years ago(June 06, 2010 07:10 AM)
Yeah except he came before Ren & Stimpy, so, they ripped HIM off. Actually, they ripped off Peter Lorre.
I could never figure out why the hell they tried to make it seem like Malak was supposed to BE Subotai. I just assumed he was a different guy, and then he makes the comment about the camel, and I was like, WHAAA?
What sucks even more is that at the end of this movie, they make it sound like there might be other adventures, and they never did anymore.
There sure was potentialI wonder why they never did another Conan? It's not like there wasn't enough material (books) to base another movie on!! Oh well.
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dm3588 — 14 years ago(May 20, 2011 08:45 PM)
What sucks even more is that at the end of this movie, they make it sound like there might be other adventures, and they never did anymore. There sure was potentialI wonder why they never did another Conan? It's not like there wasn't enough material (books) to base another movie on!! Oh well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conan_the_Barbarian
They planned a third one, but Arnold was committed to
Predator
, and his contract had expired anyway. The movie went to Development Hell, and eventually got turned into
Kull the Conquerer
.
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Gareth-6 — 19 years ago(August 01, 2006 01:15 PM)
I think with a director like Richard Fleischer who also directed Red Sonja and tried vainly to add comic relief to a show that, and like Conan the destroyer, did not need it. Had Subotai's roll been kept in Conan the Destroyer and Falcon and the little brat prince in Red Sonja not been thrown in for laughs they might have been as good as the original Conan.
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rjobrien_1943 — 19 years ago(October 22, 2006 09:57 AM)
Gerry Lopez was a friend of John Milius, the director and co-writer of the first CONAN. I think Lopez made his film debut in Milius's 'Big Wednesday' (1978). Milius didn't get on with CONAN's executive producer, Dino De Laurentiis, and was never a contender to direct the sequel. Maybe Lopez didn't want to be involved without Milius. Alternatively, as suggested above, the producers of DESTROYER didn't offer him a good deal. Either way, the script for the sequel acts like Subotai never existed. I guess the writer felt any sidekick would do.
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boowallace — 17 years ago(May 29, 2008 08:04 AM)
Yeah, I've always wondered how Malack knows about the camel and even more the wizard, Akiro. Did they all have a sitdown lunch together and talk about the old times before there ever was Malack just to clue in Malack ?
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TheBucklandFirm — 16 years ago(May 11, 2009 06:08 AM)
i watched this bag of beep yesterday. there's so much wrong with it but i'm glad to see on here that everybody seems to think subotai was really missed. he was such a cool character. there's not much i liked about the sequel. i thought bombaata was cool but that's just coz it's wilt chamberlain! too many monsters and too much comedy for my liking!
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Koosh_King01 — 16 years ago(March 08, 2010 09:01 AM)
I liked Malak, and I seem to be alone in that. I just like Tracey Walter in general. That said, I also liked Subotai. It would've been interesting to have both of them in the same movie, and have Malak constantly annoying Subotai.