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Problems/Issues I have with this film 28 years later.

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    tchevyz71 — 13 years ago(July 04, 2012 08:51 PM)

    Let me guess, you're female and you have a problem with everything.
    Get the beep over it and enjoy the damn movie. I feel sorry for whoever your significant other is, I bet you nag the beep out of him too.

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      TeaBunny — 13 years ago(July 05, 2012 09:53 PM)

      "Let me guess, you're female and you have a problem with everything."
      Oh, drop that "female" crap. I am female and I have no problem with the movie.
      "Love means never having to say you're ugly." - the Abominable Dr. Phibes

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        boxerrebellion — 11 years ago(October 25, 2014 11:56 PM)

        I agree somewhat. If a woman who has been drinking cannot give consent, then how can a man who has been drinking be responsible for his actions? By the same token, if she can't give consent, is she responsible if she kills someone while DUI?
        It's a fantasy, from the sophmore girl's POV. Much like Twilight reads like a pubescent girl's fantasy date with David Cassidy in the 70s; you know, like a diary entry. Except this is much more entertaining. Part of the point is the stupid reverence of wealth in the 80s. Look at Risky Business or St. Elmo's.

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          MovieManCin2 — 4 years ago(November 22, 2021 06:50 AM)

          MAGA! FAFO! 😎 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😎 Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 😠

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            lonniemac — 13 years ago(July 05, 2012 02:41 PM)

            Relax dude. It's just a movie. Noone was actually harmed during the filming of this movie.

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              MovieManCin2 — 4 years ago(November 22, 2021 06:50 AM)

              MAGA! FAFO! 😎 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😎 Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 😠

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                LadyLovie — 13 years ago(July 20, 2012 12:37 PM)

                I understand where the op is coming from. this was a movie for & about teens. & sending out all the wrong messages.


                domestic abuse at it's best

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                  tchr88 — 13 years ago(July 27, 2012 10:03 AM)

                  My interpretation is that this movie was an exaggeration of the teen angst of the time. I guess the movie seems a little outdated nowadays, just like "American Graffiti" was outdated in 1985.
                  Am I right or am I right or am I right? Right? Right?? ~~ Ned Ryerson

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                    maixiu — 11 years ago(November 08, 2014 12:26 PM)

                    It wasn't sending out any "messages", you uptight killjoys. Why is it so difficult for people to grasp what this movie was about? It wasn't made in the PC-soaked climate of today. Although such restrictions on humor/thought/speech were already a gathering storm on the horizon in 1984, it was still possible to make a movie where sh-t just happened and nobody got uptight about it. You either watched it and enjoyed it, watched it and didn't enjoy it, or ignored it altogether. Whichever of these options you chose, you moved on and didn't get your panties in a twist about some g-ddamn message that wasn't there to begin with.

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                      EmmaPopell — 11 years ago(January 21, 2015 02:54 PM)

                      Amen, maixiu. These over-analyzations of old movies by newer Humans are amusing. I still love alot of movies made before everyone got so butt-hurt over slurs about this or thatJeeez~~ This OP is a perfect example of someone dissecting a film that does not need to be examined any further.
                      16 Candles: It is what it is. And I love it.

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                        MovieManCin2 — 4 years ago(November 22, 2021 06:51 AM)

                        Amen, Bro!
                        MAGA! FAFO! 😎 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😎 Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 😠

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                          ohsorry — 13 years ago(August 14, 2012 02:57 PM)

                          This has always been my favorite movie, and as I get older, I just let the Jake beep slide.
                          I will say though I always thought that the Geek and Caroline didn't actually have sex, they both just thought they did because they were wasted. They wake up with all of their clothes on.

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                            Jermaine_86 — 13 years ago(August 21, 2012 04:07 PM)

                            That's always been my take on it too. They thought they had sex but they obviously didn't.

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                              JohnQ1127 — 13 years ago(August 22, 2012 07:45 AM)

                              The Geek and Prom Queen have sex at the end of the movie. He, essentially rapes the prom queen at the end of movie and it's summed up as "Rape is Love". The whole "Rape is Love" was disturbingly though somewhat popular theme in a lot of those 70's-80's teen movies.

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                                laeyisoracle — 13 years ago(September 20, 2012 09:14 PM)

                                The Geek and Prom Queen have sex at the end of the movie. He, essentially rapes the prom queen at the end of movie and it's summed up as "Rape is Love". The whole "Rape is Love" was disturbingly though somewhat popular theme in a lot of those 70's-80's teen movies.
                                But, did they REALLY have sex, or is it just "implied" they could've? I ask that because, given the moment, I think Farmer Ted would've flaked out before he actually got himself some. Add on to that the fact that, despite some of them being played by way older actors/actresses(Haviland Morris was considerably older than a teen), if we think about the whole teen angle(and this really hasn't changed throughout the years), teens always put up that BS front. They always lie about things they say they've done to make themselves look cooler than they actually are. Even now, 2012, teens really haven't changed THAT much regarding that. Kids always BS, they did back in the 80s, they'll BS decades from now.

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                                  boxerrebellion — 11 years ago(October 26, 2014 09:01 AM)

                                  Besides, drunk as they were, they managed to get their clothes back on straight?

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                                      liamforeman — 12 years ago(December 17, 2013 11:47 PM)

                                      Um, nope it is Caroline that committed statutory rape on Ted. They were both drunk and couldn't give consent, but it doesn't change the fact that she had sex with a minor three years younger than her.

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                                        LukeLovesFilm28 — 11 years ago(September 20, 2014 12:22 AM)

                                        Wait a minute. If they're both drunk, if he's underage and she's actually 18, you morons actually consider it rape?? Jesus. That's not saying much for women.
                                        So, basically, never have sex when you're both drunk?? Jesus. A lot of people should be thrown in prison.

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                                          whitespirit26 — 9 years ago(May 16, 2016 01:52 AM)

                                          Oh shut up Q. You're putting crap in the movie that isn't there.

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