Date Rape Scene?
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Sixteen Candles
theoffice11 — 9 years ago(September 05, 2016 10:10 AM)
Anyone else go wtf when the main guy says his hot girlfriend is passed out drunk upstairs and he could violate her 100 different ways, but his heart wasn't in it this time? And then later he gives the nerdy kid permission to do it? Pretty messed up that this was supposed to be the hero of the movie, but also that back then if a woman was unconscious it was considered consent.
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AmyJolamb — 9 years ago(September 10, 2016 04:09 PM)
Date rape wasn't taken seriously back then at all. There is an episode of Facts Of Life I think the first season where Blair is almost raped by a guy in his van. She comes home and tells Mrs. Garrett what happened and that's it. No report made or anything. It's almost like since Blair is a pretty girl it's accepted.
I'm a survivor of rape and in rape support groups up until about 10yrs ago many women who were date raped didn't believe it counted as rape. They felt since they agreed to go out with the guy it was their fault and it wasn't reported. This is very common and I still meet women who say "but it was date rape." It's not the same.
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residentevil6901 — 9 years ago(November 07, 2016 12:45 PM)
He wasn't giving the nerdy kid permission to do it he was giving him permission to take her home. He wasn't expecting anything to happen between them. He said he "could" violate her 100 different ways not that he has in the past or will, he was making the point he could because she's always passed out from partying. You guys are funny. I like your level of understanding. Lol
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bing-57 — 9 years ago(December 03, 2016 01:39 PM)
main guy says his hot girlfriend is passed out drunk upstairs and he could violate her 100 different ways, but his heart wasn't in it this time?
First off, he doesn't say, "this time." The scene doesn't at all imply that he has violated her like that in the past or that he is even interested in it. Okay, perhaps he has, but this scene does not indicate that; it indicates that he's actually a respectable guy.
But, let's say for the sake of argument that he has raped her like this in the past. Okay, that's bad. But, we have to think that Caroline realized what had happened when she woke up the next morning and she didn't press charges.
And now, she's putting herself in exactly the same situation by getting drunk and passing out in his bed. That's gotta count as consent on some level. Caroline's a smart cookie and she wouldn't be taking such a risk unless she was okay with it.
also that back then if a woman was unconscious it was considered consent.
No. Unconsciousness has never implied consent by itself. It's making the same mistake twice that implies consent.
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Minus_The_Beer — 9 years ago(December 26, 2016 11:04 AM)
No. Unconsciousness has never implied consent by itself.
It's making the same mistake twice that implies consent.
Not only did you shoot your argument in the foot with this last bit, but I think you blew off several toes in the process.
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