When he brings the deer back to life
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SamuelLJedi — 11 years ago(February 05, 2015 10:11 PM)
There was a time during the 80s and 90s when movies subverted the status quo using new agey characters. Star Trek III, Powder, come to mind. And Close Encounters. The baby boomers still thought to incorporate a progressive vision of the future into their films.
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06986 — 11 years ago(February 06, 2015 11:34 AM)
John Carpenter is no liberal, he is best friends with Kurt Russel who is a big time hunter and Carpenter has no issues with violence, showing kids being murdered, animals being killed, etc.
Carpenter did not write "Starman", the script called for the "evil hunters", bringing the deer back to life, the fight, and her firing the gun, and also the hypocrisy of both characters eating animals/animal eggs at the diner. Carpenter said Starman was a apology/or complete opposite movie of The Thing after the poor box office of The Thing and negative reaction to the gore/violence/dogs dying of The Thing to keep working in Hollywood so maybe he was making up for showing dogs cutting killed by agreeing to shoot the whole silly/pandering anti/evil hunter bit which seems to please Hollywood.
Most viewers including me are not psychos so we did not want the Karen Allen character to murder 3 or 4 innocent men in cold blood just because they were hunters, shot a deer, or were in a fight with a guy they assumed took/hid their deer(again, they did not witness it being brought back to life). Carpenter did not shoot the scene in hopes the viewer would want to see the hunters murdered, he shot it to show the Karen Allen character caring for Starman and changing her mind about driving the guy to where he needs to go instead of escaping on the bus.
You are clueless about hunting, back in the day putting a deer on the hood of your car was the way hunters transported what they shot and there was never a issue, pickups were not common back then, hunters did not have the luxury of owning a separate vehicle to transport a deer so it either went in the trunk or hood of their daily driver. Putting a 200lb animal in the trunk of a car is not easy, it is even more difficult to pull a 200lb deer out of a trunk , not to mention it gets blood all over a part of the car that can't be sprayed off with a hose so they put the deer on the hood. As hunters and hunting moved more and more into suburban areas in the late 80's and 90's with more and more yuppies around them who complained about the site of dead deer on the hood of cars, hunters would rather not deal with complaints/negative image from sensitive people and it was generally accepted not to put a dead deer in sight on hoods anymore and to to just put them in the bed of a pickup, in the back of a SUV, or in the trunk plus there are laws against strapping things/animals to hoods of cars now.
If you rooted for the Karen Allen character to murder the hunters because of your hate for hunters/hunting you are a unbalanced psycho, a hypocrite if you eat meat, and should seek counseling. -
SamuelLJedi — 11 years ago(February 06, 2015 01:58 PM)
Carpenter might have been ok with hunters, but he's obviously not ok with bullies, like you. I'm glad not all hunters feel the need to bully people online with their opinions. I might not hunt, but I'm no liberal. I have several guns and support the spirit of 2nd amendment. And if a son of a bitching bully hunter comes near me with an attitude, I'll shove a 1911 up his ass and empty the clip, just like Jenny was about to. Bully hunters like you deserve to eat lead: that's what Carpenter was saying.
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06986 — 11 years ago(February 06, 2015 06:38 PM)
Good for you psycho, then by murdering a "bully hunter"(something you have made up in your head after watching too many movies) you will have committed cold blooded murder and would be charged and convicted of murder and spend the rest of your life in jail or get the death penalty. Typical people hating self loathing peta nutjob.
I am supportive of mentally sound law abiding people owning guns, I am not supportive of unstable over emotional nutcases owning firearms especially ones where scenes in Hollywood movies affect them so much that they make up scenarios in their head of "bully hunters" bad guys "coming near them with attitude" and they will put a 45. up their ass and murder them.
You are the last person that should own or be anywhere near firearms and you sound like the type who should not be watching any movies that invoke any strong emotions or have adult subject matter because you clearly can't handle it. You really need to be medicated and talk to a professional. You are the exact type that ends up doing something crazy because you saw something in a movie or a song effected them too much and should be monitored. -
06986 — 11 years ago(February 08, 2015 12:48 PM)
SamuelJedi, you fail at basic reading comprehension.
I will explain it again, hopefully you may comprehend it this time. "Sport hunters" are the same as "food hunters", "Sport hunters" eat the meat too or donate it to the less fortunate, sport hunters just tend to go after bigger animals in the herd with bigger racks and mount the head or keep the rack, they often travel to areas that have the biggest game or more abundant game. Hunters do not just shoot deer or other animals for "sport" and leave the carcass where they shot it after they cut the rack off. "Sportsman" is just another name for a hunter, they are the same and eat the animal they take. The hunters in Starman were food hunters and were going to eat what they shot because the hunter offered the Karen Allen character venison so you getting bent out of shape at "sport hunters" in Starman is pointless.
You just can't let it go and choose to ignore the facts that disprove your silly imbecile peta argument that certain hunters just kill deer or other game for the hell of it or fun and don't eat it because hunting for food is generally accepted by all of society and it makes people against hunting who eat meat complete hypocrites which is why peta types started arguing the "sport hunter" nonsense. Sorry to break it to you with facts but your sport hunter argument is a totally wrong argument and does not work with people who actually go by facts and reality, it is actually illegal to just shoot deer and leave them.
I have been hunting since I was 13, I have never once met or heard of a "sport hunter" or any hunter that just hunts and shoots game for the hell of it and does not eat or donate what they shoot. The only animal people shoot and don't eat or use the animal in some way(pelt) are nuisance animals like crows, invasive large snakes in Florida Even invasive hog hunters almost always eat or donate what they shot. -
Zach126 — 10 years ago(October 15, 2015 08:19 AM)
I know this is an old thread but I just wanted to respond to the guy who's making it sound like all hunters are saintly and always eat what they kill. That's simply not true. There are trophy hunters (Walter Palmer anyone?) who simply kill just for the thrill of it. And I highly doubt he and other trophy hunters are all eating Lion or Rhino meat.
Also, I just came across dozens of disgusting videos on YouTube showing real rednecks (not movie ones) shooting coyotes while making taunting sounds & laughing about it. These A-holes aren't doing it for the meat either and blowing away an animal just for kicks is not ethical or moral by any decent persons standards.
And when u say there are too many deer & they need to be thinned out, I would actually agree with that. But the whole reason that is the case is becuz hunters almost completely wiped out all the natural predators in the last century. Is that a good thing? I don't think so.
Also, ppl don't get mad about hunting just becuz Hollywood or PETA told us to. We are smart enuff &compassionate enuff to do that all on our
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jgroub — 10 years ago(November 23, 2015 08:17 PM)
(and then some pork, but that might have been a different offer)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Yes, I do believe you are correct there, sir.
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buddytesla-1 — 9 years ago(June 11, 2016 02:08 PM)
The only reason to strap the deer to the car is he was planning to eat it, in which case the first thing you do is gut it. Healing wounds is one thing, but how did he replace all the animal's internal organs to bring it back to life?