Arnold Schwarzenegger miscast as the Terminator
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soggybottom — 5 years ago(April 19, 2020 04:33 AM)
I totally agree with Karl, but Arnold does have that robotic-type voice that is perfect for the role.
He just really looks and acts like a robot throughout the film. I never thought of him as much of an actor, but you gotta admit–He really nailed the part! -
— 5 years ago(April 19, 2020 05:50 AM)Lance Henriksen
was ORIGINALLY supposed to be
The TERMINATOR
. They also at one point BEFORE
Arnie
got the role wanted future DOUBLE-MURDERING
OJ
for the role.
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SHIT
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HARRY
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WarrenPeace — 3 years ago(November 09, 2022 08:54 PM)
Lance is a character actor.
Makes me wonder if that would have gotten him bigger roles should he have been the Term.
He did get to play a robot in the JC movie of Aliens instead, which is interesting and that robot seemed to be a better fit for him.
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P.Error — 4 years ago(May 24, 2021 12:18 AM)
Yes, and no. But more, no.
The endoskeletons themselves were created to defend Skynet in the future: they were designed to look buff and intimidating. They wouldn't create short, fat endoskeletons as fighting soldiers. So any human skin you put over the endoskeleton is naturally going to have a build and facial structure similar to Arnold.
Just with the technologically capable of making a terminator with organic skin that bleeds and sweats is enough to pass as human - they don't need to make short and overweight to do this.
They did do your assessment to the T-1000. Robert Patrick was looked more like an average Joe to blend in with society, but could be intimidating as well. But they're going to go as far to make the terminators comical to look at. They wouldn't even do that in real life.
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Karl Aksel — 4 years ago(May 25, 2021 09:17 PM)
Just with the technologically capable of making a terminator with organic skin that bleeds and sweats is enough to pass as human - they don't need to make short and overweight to do this.
But that's the whole point - if the purpose is to infiltrate, then yes, that is precisely what they would need to do.
As for looking intimidating, to what end? Animals evolve to intimidate so they won't have to fight - far better to frighten off rivals and predators. But terminators are pure hunters, and scaring humans into running away would be counter-productive to what they were aiming to achieve. They want to flush the humans out, not make them hide.
The only reason terminators look menacing is because it makes for a more menacing movie. Not because it'd make sense from a practical point of view, because it wouldn't. -
WarrenPeace — 3 years ago(November 09, 2022 08:51 PM)
"They should design a terminator that looked like Rodney Dangerfield…"
Yeah, and he would kill us with laughter and really be a danger field!
On the other hand, he would just bitch and moan all the time about not getting the respect that other models get.
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P.Error — 3 years ago(November 09, 2022 11:14 PM)
They're designed to be infiltration units, yes, but they're not ONLY designed for that. Their human skin is also designed to look like a intimidating human soldier with muscle mass.
The idea is to intimidate people with the skin alone so that he doesn't have to reveal his endoskeleton.
Also, if a terminator is sent back in time, how many people are going to a think a well-built dude is an android? The fact he sweats, breaths, and bleeds is enough to pass as human.
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WarrenPeace — 11 months ago(May 03, 2025 09:37 PM)
For us the movie audience.
Did you know that OJ Simpson was considered for the role?
That would have been something as him being a murder machine in the first one then come back as the machine hero in the second then get accused of murders?
You bring up an interesting point in the OP.
Yeah, why not have him blend in more looking like an everyday person.
I think we got that in T2 and 3.
What do you think of those Terms?
Fit the bill?
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P.Error — 11 months ago(May 04, 2025 03:11 PM)
- Because having Danny Devito going around killing Sarah Connors would be unintentionally laughable.
- Arnold was originally interested in Reese with Lance Henrisken envisioned for terminator. But to have Arnold in the movie and NOT play the terminator when he has a naturally robotic voice and accent, a naturally wooden and expressionless acting style, an otherworldly body, and a face shape that looks like the skull of the endoskeleton, would be a missed opportunity to say the least. For a film with limited budget, the plausibility pays for itself.
- They went for infiltration with the T-1000, but even he was slim and agile and fit. Designing the skin if the machines to look like Americans with cholesterol problems would be silly. The T-800 was a bulkier model so it’d make sense a tall muscular skin would fit over it. It works and Arnold’s perfect for it.
- Arnold still passes as human, and bleeds, so the infiltration concept still works.
- When people have realistic human-looking sex dolls, they go for perfection. They don’t want to have a sex doll with fake pimples and varicose veins designed on it so it looks more “human.” Humans like attractive.
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