I can't believe people actually liked this movie
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ecarle — 20 years ago(June 29, 2005 02:20 PM)
I believe that "Silverado" was explicitly intended as an attempt to go back in time BEFORE the violent, operatic and international looking "Spaghetti Westerns" of Leone (with their terrible dubbing) indeed before the ultra-violent Peckinpah "Wild Bunch" to a time when the Western featured a clear match-up of good vs. evil under sunny skies on the open prarie.
Kasdan had recently helped reinvent such genres as the film noir ("Body Heat") and the adventure movie ("Raiders of the Lost Ark"), and wanted to try to do the same for the Western.
But alas, the Western was still a dead genre for many audience members, especially women.
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alvink — 20 years ago(July 07, 2005 06:45 PM)
yeeeesssss.
silverado is shallow and pointless, and, when it tries to have mr. klein 'stare down the villian', eastwood-style, it's just pitiful, but it's ok for the people that do not know anything about westerns.
but for those who compare this movie with rio bravo or once upon a time, get a life, preferably watching old ricky martin re-runs. -
lam33gb — 20 years ago(July 21, 2005 04:08 PM)
I know more than my fair share about Westerns. I'm from West Texas. And yes, I did grow up with alot of land with a few horses and some cattle. A family friend is actually in the movie. Most of his career involved Westerns (Roy Mac).
Personally, I love the movie. It is in my Western collection that includes many John Wayne greats along with Desperado, Lonesome Dove, Open Range, and many more.
It's fine to not like a movie, but to question someone's intelligence concerning a subject because they actually do like a movie is rather shallow. What makes your opinion worth more than anyone elses? NothingAbsolutely nothing. -
cengelm — 20 years ago(July 31, 2005 12:17 PM)
Anyone who prefers that film to Clementine and Rio Grande probably doesn't care very much about filmmaking or artistic content.
Whatever content there is. What's the point of MY DARLING CLEMENTINE?
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smith93 — 20 years ago(August 18, 2005 09:09 AM)
The point of My Darling Clementine? John Ford used the mythology of the western to make movies about his understanding of America's national identity. My Darling Clementine is about the taming of the west and the values of civilization. And defending a movie by saying that it is "more difficult to handle" because it's in color is ridiculous. Aside from the fact that that isn't even necessarily true, are you arguing that a movie is better if it was more difficult to make? It could be more easily argued that a subtle and meaningful movie like Clementine or Rio Grand is "more difficult to handle" than a shallow, generic shoot-em-up like Silverado.
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alvink — 20 years ago(August 31, 2005 06:34 PM)
i agree soooooo much. people like it, and i don't understand, but i want to understand, but this movie is doggie-doo.
kline needs to comunicate with glover, so he shoots the rifle action of glover's rifle; glover says 'thanks' then continues to use the same rifle. duh.
this movie encompasses the same realism as does 'terror in tiny town', the western made with midgets riding shetland ponies.
however, if you would like to get goofed up and cheer, how about kline trying to make the same faces as eastwood, van cleef, and wallach.
more 'camp', in a ridiculous way' than this movie would be difficult to find.
this is one really stupid movie. just ridiculous.
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Phantasm21 — 20 years ago(September 08, 2005 04:24 AM)
kline needs to comunicate with glover, so he shoots the rifle action of glover's rifle; glover says 'thanks' then continues to use the same rifle. duh.
Are you talking about when Glover was on top of the roof in the big shoot out near the end when that guy was sneaking up behind him? Cause it looked like to me that Kline just shot the stonework above Glover's head. That actually made me laugh since it was such an insane way to warn somebody. -
lwarren777 — 20 years ago(October 11, 2005 11:58 AM)
Has anyone ever taught you how to use the shift button on your keyboard? But maybe they don't teach that until second grade?
Everyone has their own tastes. Sometimes, even I can't explain why I like one thing over another, let alone why I like something that someone else doesn't. All I know is that I love this movie. One of my favorites. -
rizdek — 20 years ago(February 21, 2006 07:30 PM)
Just got through watching Silverado for the first timeI know, better late than never. I thought it was well done. Certainly deserving of the 7:10 rating. I have to wonder if people claiming it is so bad actually watched it. I notice misstatements of scenes in criticisms.
EG: alvink says: "kline needs to comunicate with glover, so he shoots the rifle action of glover's rifle; glover says 'thanks' then continues to use the same rifle. duh."
alvink has two different scenes mixed up, watch it again.
"how about kline trying to make the same faces as eastwood, van cleef, and wallach."
I guess I didn't get that Kline was trying to mimic anyonehe was just being Paden, not eastwood etc. Now, I have to say that Eastwood is probably my favorite western starhis cold looks, gleam in the eye, and delivery of one-liners is classic. But again, I never felt like Kline or anyone else in this movie, was trying to imitate.
In another thread, someone berates Rosanna Arquette for saying about herself that she is so beautifulover and over again. I didn't notice that she did that, and pointed it out in that thread. -
tomcat69w — 19 years ago(April 11, 2006 01:51 PM)
Where did all of these pre-pubescent pedantic punks,spring from??? Although not the greatest Western ever made, it is offbeat, smart, memorable, fun and can only assume those who don't like it,do not like the Western 'genre' much
at all. Some people prefer the 'Art House type Western OUATITW,other's prefer their Western's a bit more hip and fun, like this one. I have been a fan
of the western genre for over 50 years,(back when it WAS the old west) and am going to 'break' down the genre even a bit more.
The Standard Westerns:
Red River
Rio Grande
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
Fort Apache
Offbeat Westerns:
Silverado
The Quick & The Dead
The Professionals
One-Eyed Jacks
Art House Westerns:
Good The Bad The Ugly
Once Upon A Time In The West
The Wild Bunch
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Jetfire59 — 19 years ago(May 15, 2006 10:26 AM)
kline needs to comunicate with glover, so he shoots the rifle action of glover's rifle; glover says 'thanks' then continues to use the same rifle. duh.
You're mixxing up two different sequences. Paden doesn't shoot Mal's rifle, he shoots at the wall over his head. I'm watching the film as I type this. The rifle action getting hit is in the later fight between Emmett and Ethan.
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ragreen259 — 20 years ago(September 07, 2005 09:41 PM)
You're clearly an authority, another "everyone is out of step but me" person, so there's no sense in debating with an idiot.
This movie was made long after the western was dead, and was a great comeback effort for the genre, IMO. People piss and whine about the stupidest stuff, but the fact is, when it comes right down to it, the movie was entertaining, and that's what it's all about, except for anal-retentive self-appointed critics that couldn't find their ass with both hands if someone held a flahlight on it for them. -
Phantasm21 — 20 years ago(September 08, 2005 04:53 AM)
Perhaps a lot of the people who don't like this movie don't fully appreciate that it is supposed to be as much of a comedy as it is a western and that a lot of the things in the movie, like when Mal shoots the gun out of one of the bad guy's hand, are both parodies of traditional westerns as well as homages to them. It's a light hearted movie that doesn't take itself too seriously but still manages to deliver some stunning visuals and a cast full of memorable characters. So that's why I gave it a 10.