Hey Just discovered a rather unknown film that I've been dying to see again, it's called "Nightbreaker" (aka "Advance to
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znapper — 9 years ago(August 23, 2016 02:32 PM)
Hey
Just discovered a rather unknown film that I've been dying to see again, it's called "Nightbreaker" (aka "Advance to ground zero" and other names).
http://www.imdb.com/board/10097977/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
You can view the full movie on youtube here (insert after youtube.com/:
watch?v=c99N2SrvLqc
Anyone else got tips for (non documentary) films with a nuclear perspective/nuclear war?
We already know
Actual war/countdown to war/aftermath:
Threads (duh)
The day after:
http://www.imdb.com/board/10085404/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
By dawn's early light:
http://www.imdb.com/board/10099197/?ref_=tt_rec_tt
Miracle mile:
http://www.imdb.com/board/10097889/
Nightbreaker (drama on nuclear testing):
http://www.imdb.com/board/10097977/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
Dr. Strangelove (I find it stupid and silly but, anyway):
http://www.imdb.com/board/10057012/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
Letters from a dead man:
http://www.imdb.com/board/10091759/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
Cop-out drama
Testament:
http://www.imdb.com/board/10086429/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
On the beach:
http://www.imdb.com/board/10219224/
When the wind blows:
http://www.imdb.com/board/10090315/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
Shelter drama:
The divide:
http://www.imdb.com/board/11535616/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
Creation of the damned:
http://www.imdb.com/board/10072071/- I don't think the Terminator-series belong in this collection really.
- I don't think the Mad Max series belong to this category either.
- Films where they are JUST able to stop the countdown doesn't count.
- Action-films where a nuke goes off, doesn't count.
Anyone got something good to add?
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greg-233 — 9 years ago(August 24, 2016 12:47 AM)
There was a film made in 1971 called
Glen and Randa
. I haven't actually seen it, but it sounds like it could fit the "nuke-fetish":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_and_Randa
In
Who's Who and What's What In Science Fiction
Gene Wright said of the film:
Glen and Randa, two amoral hippie survivors of an atomic holocaust, wander naked through the ruins of America on an idyllic journey to a fabled city called Metropolis. Shot in 16mm. and enlarged to 35mm., the film has brilliant moments but is amateurishly executed. Then an underground filmmaker, Jim McBride shows a raw talent for evoking dreamlike landscapes from existing locations, and the film, in it's way, is a triumph of imagination over money.
Some Amazon reviews:
https://www.amazon.com/Glen-Randa-Steve-Curry/dp/B001UHKPHU -
tgs333 — 9 years ago(August 24, 2016 08:31 AM)
Great list znapper. Creation of the Damned, as bad as it it, is actually a pretty good movie. only a die hard would know that one! great job.
Nightbreaker is on youtube and I watched it recently:
"I'm a vehemently anti-nuclear, paranoid mess, harbouring a strange obsession with radioactive sheep." -
CorpseCandle — 9 years ago(August 26, 2016 11:17 AM)
That scene of New York is brutal, One Night Stand Needs a proper DVD/Blu-Ray release.
If you want wack try The Bed Sitting Room, a post nuclear Britisn is barely functioning and the film follows the odessy of an English family through a destroyed London landscape.
Full of many British comedy legends this film of nuclear fiction this by far one of THE most unusual.
It's worth a watch.
Oh and try the Japanese film The Last War. That's on my "to watch pile" -
tgs333 — 9 years ago(August 26, 2016 01:10 PM)
Ah the Last War! We got some die hards here. I've seen that film about 25 years ago (on vhs). think I rented it at blockbuster. While it might be worth while, I recall being somewhat disappointed by it. Kinda, like how I was so geeked about renting def-con 4 back in the 80s because of the box cover. lol.
The Last War Trailer:
"I'm a vehemently anti-nuclear, paranoid mess, harbouring a strange obsession with radioactive sheep." -
ianberg — 9 years ago(September 28, 2016 09:48 PM)
Fail Safe - it's a "President in a bunker" movie, completely melodramatic and was filmed and released around the same time as Dr Strangelove.
Thirteen Days - the Cuban Missile Crisis movie starring Kevin Costner may or may not fit your criteria, I'm not sure -
tgs333 — 9 years ago(September 29, 2016 11:59 AM)
Not a movie, but a tv show on hulu. I always chuckled at this commercial where the dude is dreaming about the atom bomb explosion while his wife and kids are out in the yard waving at him:
"oh hi honey ahhhhhh"
"I'm a vehemently anti-nuclear, paranoid mess, harbouring a strange obsession with radioactive sheep." -
AudioQuest — 9 years ago(October 31, 2016 10:23 AM)
Control (1987):
http://www.imdb.com/board/10092781/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
Italian film about a psychological test where people are put into a shelter to see how they could cope. Then, during the test, an actual nuclear emergency occurs.
Pretty good. Starred Burt Lancaster.
What's a knockout like you doing in a computer-generated gin joint like this? -
CorpseCandle — 9 years ago(November 06, 2016 10:34 AM)
Cop-out drama (not involving the war itself, or the countdown, but the human drama after)
Testament: http://www.imdb.com/board/10086429/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
On the beach: http://www.imdb.com/board/10219224/
When the wind blows: http://www.imdb.com/board/10090315/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
Not being a bitch or anything but both When The Wind Blows and Testament involve the war and countdown to the war.
When the Wind Blows explicitly states as such so you got those two completely wrong. -
znapper — 9 years ago(December 06, 2016 07:29 AM)
When the wind blows is a cartoon, so there are no "scenes" of war or aftermath.
Testament shows a glimmer in the horizon and then everyone is slowly falling away, which is more of a human drama than anything else.- Then again, in a US-perspective, it may be very realistic, since many small towns will experience WWIII in that manner.
When you look at 'Threads' and 'TDA' and compare, you see that the movies mentioned in your quote, tells a different story and they are different "genera" dealing with nuclear war.
But they are mentioned, since they are still relevant. On the beach (the new one) could have shown the build-up and the war in much greater detail and clipped away a lot of the other stuff to shorten it down again, or been a two-part movie. (before-during and then after).
- Then again, in a US-perspective, it may be very realistic, since many small towns will experience WWIII in that manner.
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CorpseCandle — 9 years ago(December 16, 2016 08:52 AM)
When the wind blows is a cartoon, so there are no "scenes" of war or aftermath.
Brief glimpses of the build up can be seen at the very start as we the British military leave for the crises. Then there are reference to the build up to the war on radio and newspaper. Also cut away shots of of nuclear submarines, bombers and nuclear missile silos.
no "scenes" of war or aftermath.
The damn film is based on the war and the aftermath, have you seen it?
When you look at 'Threads' and 'TDA' and compare, you see that the movies mentioned in your quote, tells a different story and they are different "genera" dealing with nuclear war.
Wha?
They are different films dealibng with the same issue, it's just you are clearly unable to label them properly. -
CorpseCandle — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 08:04 AM)
In
When The Wind Blows
there is both depiction of the war and the build up to it, that's not a matter of opinion that's a matter of fact. All I am saying is if someone looked at your list and trusted it, they would get a wrong headed idea about what certain films were about and what they contained.
The other issue I have is with the term "cop-out", as if the only thing worth watching a film about nuclear for was the death and destruction of the weapons.
Fact being all the films you list focus on the human drama, by your standards they are all cop outs. -
znapper — 9 years ago(December 22, 2016 07:50 AM)
They are on the list, are they not? They are there because I think they are watch-worthy and revolves around a subject that is hard to find.
I labeled them cop-out's because they don't show any war, the actual scenes in "when the wind blows" doesn't count in my book, since it is a cartoon, that film is also more about inter-personal relationships and the naivety of actually trusting the government.
When the wind blows, basically shows two old idiots, seemingly with no knowledge about nuclear war, dying in their house, after 2 hours of dialog.
(no one who experienced WWII and 40 years of cold-war would be that stupid, naive and with so little knowledge and sense of reality).
It's on the list, because it depicts nuclear war and it's after-effects and raises some questions. Personally, I am not a big fan at all, the characters are way too naive and unrealistic to make any impact at all.
Testament is a "soap" which depict the unraveling of a local community by fallout, nothing more, nothing less. Americanized and slick with a lot of tears and "i love you" blabla. It's still on the list, because it depicts the effects of nuclear war. (most likely very realistic, as a lot of towns would never be hit directly, but get fallout, in the US and other places).
On the beach is basically a soap too, inter-personal drama with a backdrop of the effects of nuclear war. Without the trip they took to the states, showing the destruction, it would be another version of "Testament".
That's why they are "cop-out's" on my list, they do not depict anything like TDA og Threads, it's a cheaper way to depict nuclear war and they have heavy elements of soap and touchy-feely elements.
Now, you may agree or disagree with the labeling, this is
my
list where I've categorized the stuff to my liking.
If you have an issue with that, you are free to make your own, this is the internet, no one will ever agree to anything, ever anyway. -
CorpseCandle — 9 years ago(December 22, 2016 12:01 PM)
Though when people watch a film about nuclear war they don't
need
to see all aspects of the physical war.
I know it's your list and you made it I'm just unsure as to what you think it "cops out" from. In my opinion
The Day After
is one of the lesser affecting films.
The problem
The Day After
has is like
Threads
it's depiction of nuclear destruction does date. However all the elements of the after effects are still potent.
To my mind at least a film that can stand the test of time while covering a historical time period and the issue's involved is the superior film. On The Beach may be dated in terms of the science it uses but the issue's it raises in concern with relationships and the death of society still make it an important film.
I didn't really want to turn this into an arguement but I still feel with many of the films listed you have completely missed the point of what they were about. Your treatment of
When The Wind Blows
is completely unfair and harshBUTokay your opinion.