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znapper — 9 years ago(December 06, 2016 07:29 AM)
When the wind blows is a cartoon, so there are no "scenes" of war or aftermath.
Testament shows a glimmer in the horizon and then everyone is slowly falling away, which is more of a human drama than anything else.- Then again, in a US-perspective, it may be very realistic, since many small towns will experience WWIII in that manner.
When you look at 'Threads' and 'TDA' and compare, you see that the movies mentioned in your quote, tells a different story and they are different "genera" dealing with nuclear war.
But they are mentioned, since they are still relevant. On the beach (the new one) could have shown the build-up and the war in much greater detail and clipped away a lot of the other stuff to shorten it down again, or been a two-part movie. (before-during and then after).
- Then again, in a US-perspective, it may be very realistic, since many small towns will experience WWIII in that manner.
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CorpseCandle — 9 years ago(December 16, 2016 08:52 AM)
When the wind blows is a cartoon, so there are no "scenes" of war or aftermath.
Brief glimpses of the build up can be seen at the very start as we the British military leave for the crises. Then there are reference to the build up to the war on radio and newspaper. Also cut away shots of of nuclear submarines, bombers and nuclear missile silos.
no "scenes" of war or aftermath.
The damn film is based on the war and the aftermath, have you seen it?
When you look at 'Threads' and 'TDA' and compare, you see that the movies mentioned in your quote, tells a different story and they are different "genera" dealing with nuclear war.
Wha?
They are different films dealibng with the same issue, it's just you are clearly unable to label them properly. -
CorpseCandle — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 08:04 AM)
In
When The Wind Blows
there is both depiction of the war and the build up to it, that's not a matter of opinion that's a matter of fact. All I am saying is if someone looked at your list and trusted it, they would get a wrong headed idea about what certain films were about and what they contained.
The other issue I have is with the term "cop-out", as if the only thing worth watching a film about nuclear for was the death and destruction of the weapons.
Fact being all the films you list focus on the human drama, by your standards they are all cop outs. -
znapper — 9 years ago(December 22, 2016 07:50 AM)
They are on the list, are they not? They are there because I think they are watch-worthy and revolves around a subject that is hard to find.
I labeled them cop-out's because they don't show any war, the actual scenes in "when the wind blows" doesn't count in my book, since it is a cartoon, that film is also more about inter-personal relationships and the naivety of actually trusting the government.
When the wind blows, basically shows two old idiots, seemingly with no knowledge about nuclear war, dying in their house, after 2 hours of dialog.
(no one who experienced WWII and 40 years of cold-war would be that stupid, naive and with so little knowledge and sense of reality).
It's on the list, because it depicts nuclear war and it's after-effects and raises some questions. Personally, I am not a big fan at all, the characters are way too naive and unrealistic to make any impact at all.
Testament is a "soap" which depict the unraveling of a local community by fallout, nothing more, nothing less. Americanized and slick with a lot of tears and "i love you" blabla. It's still on the list, because it depicts the effects of nuclear war. (most likely very realistic, as a lot of towns would never be hit directly, but get fallout, in the US and other places).
On the beach is basically a soap too, inter-personal drama with a backdrop of the effects of nuclear war. Without the trip they took to the states, showing the destruction, it would be another version of "Testament".
That's why they are "cop-out's" on my list, they do not depict anything like TDA og Threads, it's a cheaper way to depict nuclear war and they have heavy elements of soap and touchy-feely elements.
Now, you may agree or disagree with the labeling, this is
my
list where I've categorized the stuff to my liking.
If you have an issue with that, you are free to make your own, this is the internet, no one will ever agree to anything, ever anyway. -
CorpseCandle — 9 years ago(December 22, 2016 12:01 PM)
Though when people watch a film about nuclear war they don't
need
to see all aspects of the physical war.
I know it's your list and you made it I'm just unsure as to what you think it "cops out" from. In my opinion
The Day After
is one of the lesser affecting films.
The problem
The Day After
has is like
Threads
it's depiction of nuclear destruction does date. However all the elements of the after effects are still potent.
To my mind at least a film that can stand the test of time while covering a historical time period and the issue's involved is the superior film. On The Beach may be dated in terms of the science it uses but the issue's it raises in concern with relationships and the death of society still make it an important film.
I didn't really want to turn this into an arguement but I still feel with many of the films listed you have completely missed the point of what they were about. Your treatment of
When The Wind Blows
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CorpseCandle — 9 years ago(December 23, 2016 07:17 AM)
In the UK there is still a snobbish attitude to animation being used to make a serious point. However anyone whom I have met that has this attitude reserves
When The Wind Blows
as an exception.
It's annoying that when I have been on the
Testament
page here on IMDB some people go on about how it's too "feminist" but the whole point of the film is that it captures events from a mothers point of view. I can't think of too many films like that.
It's bloody great also.
Have you seen
Barefoot Gen
, Ite?
Really good Anmie about the hiroshima atmoic bombing. -
CorpseCandle — 9 years ago(December 23, 2016 04:47 PM)
I think you should, it's a painfull watch but also worth while as it's so well made. There is at least one live action version in existance but I haven't been able to find it.
There's another movie called
In The Aftermath
that mixes animation with live action, I've never made it all the way through that one despite trying three times. I get to the point I usually do (almost halfway) and I give up. Not totally sure why I think the film just confuses me and isn't interesting enough to keep me watching.