Get back to bloody Russia, where you belong? What was that about?
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martin-mcneil — 16 years ago(February 21, 2010 06:15 AM)
Did it occur to you that, in the global nuclear exchange depicted, the Soviets would have been in the exact same position?
Carl Sagan put it best around the time of this film: "[The nuclear arms race is like] two sworn enemies standing waist deep in gasoline, one with three matches, the other with five." -
totalbollacks — 16 years ago(March 17, 2010 01:12 PM)
"Carl Sagan put it best around the time of this film: "[The nuclear arms race is like] two sworn enemies standing waist deep in gasoline, one with three matches, the other with five.".."
Carl would have been aware that compatriots and fellow scientists had been tasked to deliver protection from a rain of missiles, useless though it was.
To this day there are arms and military lobbies pursuing an advantage should nuclear conflict arise. That same advantage is surely the spark for any war involving high energy weapons.
I prefer his MAD assertion it is more comforting. -
jay_guevara-1 — 13 years ago(May 02, 2012 05:46 PM)
Did it occur to you that, in the global nuclear exchange depicted, the Soviets would have been in the exact same position?
Carl Sagan put it best around the time of this film: "[The nuclear arms race is like] two sworn enemies standing waist deep in gasoline, one with three matches, the other with five."
Another classic observation was made by Albert Einstein when asked in 1947 what kinds of weapons would be used in World War III.
I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -
euro4569 — 13 years ago(March 06, 2013 09:05 AM)
Shurbanm said: I think you'd change your mind pretty quickly when faced with death.
My reasponse: Oh hell no I wouldn't. I value my freedom to speak my mind as long as I don't hurt anyone doing it (didn't say offend), leaving the country if I feel like it, worshipping (or not worshipping)the God who sent his son to save my soul, and work hard and provide for myself and be rewarded by how hard I work. If I can't live a free independent man, able to provide for myself and not have a limit as to how much I can save and provide for myself, then I'd rather not live at all. Sorry you wet PC Pro New Labourites, its how I feel and if you don't like it, you know where you can go.
To be honest with you, I'm not totally at ease with all of these post Soviet countries joining the EU (and save your paranoia comments). -
euro4569 — 13 years ago(March 08, 2013 10:44 AM)
Hey, I made a statement, and I know what I know. Nuff said. You want to talk communism, ask the relatives of all those people who froze, starved, or were beaten to death in gulags just for having opinions that differ from the party line. Ask the people who emigrated out of Russia during Glasnost about communism who had relatives who were victims of the 'midnight knock'. They'd tell you plenty but I grant you this, what they tell you, will hurt you. Just like my previous statement, the truth always hurts when you hide from it.
Sure, I'd choose death over this anytime and would welcome it. Many Soviets actually welcomed Nazi invasions during WWII. -
shurbanm — 13 years ago(March 08, 2013 11:16 AM)
So your point being?
And no I am not a communist.
But you are not much different from them in that you see the world only in black and white. Things are much more complex than that.
Oh and talk about invading..let's talk about how many countries "communist" countries invaded and how many countries capitalist ones invaded.
And no you would cower down and take it. Like most everybody. The will to survive is stronger than political views.
I'm not hiding from anything nor do any of your statements "hurt". Why would they. I don't care what you chose to do with your life nor how opinionated you are. -
anubeon — 12 years ago(December 04, 2013 01:28 PM)
I think I'd prefer you die in the firestorm too. Meanwhile, those of us less jaded, defeatist and idiotic, can sit in the rubble soothing our radiation sores dreaming of the comparative luxury of a Soviet occupation and a chance to fight the good fight.
ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD! -
greg-233 — 12 years ago(December 05, 2013 01:31 PM)
I think the phrase "get back to Russia" was something people generally said to any activist who was perceived as militantly left wing.
There was a TV show made a couple of years before
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called
Boys From the Blackstuff.
Set in Liverpool, the main characters were all on the dole. One character, a socialist called Snowy, was a member of the Workers Revolutionary Party.
Snowy:
But be warned - the way things are going with this government, a swing to the right, tax relief for the rich, redundancies for the poor, mass unemployment, poverty, curtailing of freedom starting with the unions, it's all heading for one thing and one thing only - a fascist dictatorship and a police state.
Jimmy:
That's two things.
Loggo:
And it sounds just like Russia, Snowy.
Snowy:
Oh don't be soft -
Loggo:
You know you, eh, you're an offence under the Noise Abatement Act.
Snowy was a bit like that trade unionist in
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who was calling for a general strike, just before the scuffle with the police and the ensuing riot.