Referring to the bit where the peace speaker was explaining to the crowd about the dire situation, ie how all population
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euro4569 — 13 years ago(March 08, 2013 10:44 AM)
Hey, I made a statement, and I know what I know. Nuff said. You want to talk communism, ask the relatives of all those people who froze, starved, or were beaten to death in gulags just for having opinions that differ from the party line. Ask the people who emigrated out of Russia during Glasnost about communism who had relatives who were victims of the 'midnight knock'. They'd tell you plenty but I grant you this, what they tell you, will hurt you. Just like my previous statement, the truth always hurts when you hide from it.
Sure, I'd choose death over this anytime and would welcome it. Many Soviets actually welcomed Nazi invasions during WWII. -
shurbanm — 13 years ago(March 08, 2013 11:16 AM)
So your point being?
And no I am not a communist.
But you are not much different from them in that you see the world only in black and white. Things are much more complex than that.
Oh and talk about invading..let's talk about how many countries "communist" countries invaded and how many countries capitalist ones invaded.
And no you would cower down and take it. Like most everybody. The will to survive is stronger than political views.
I'm not hiding from anything nor do any of your statements "hurt". Why would they. I don't care what you chose to do with your life nor how opinionated you are. -
anubeon — 12 years ago(December 04, 2013 01:28 PM)
I think I'd prefer you die in the firestorm too. Meanwhile, those of us less jaded, defeatist and idiotic, can sit in the rubble soothing our radiation sores dreaming of the comparative luxury of a Soviet occupation and a chance to fight the good fight.
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greg-233 — 12 years ago(December 05, 2013 01:31 PM)
I think the phrase "get back to Russia" was something people generally said to any activist who was perceived as militantly left wing.
There was a TV show made a couple of years before
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called
Boys From the Blackstuff.
Set in Liverpool, the main characters were all on the dole. One character, a socialist called Snowy, was a member of the Workers Revolutionary Party.
Snowy:
But be warned - the way things are going with this government, a swing to the right, tax relief for the rich, redundancies for the poor, mass unemployment, poverty, curtailing of freedom starting with the unions, it's all heading for one thing and one thing only - a fascist dictatorship and a police state.
Jimmy:
That's two things.
Loggo:
And it sounds just like Russia, Snowy.
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Loggo:
You know you, eh, you're an offence under the Noise Abatement Act.
Snowy was a bit like that trade unionist in
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-DON3k- — 15 years ago(May 31, 2010 12:09 AM)
Part of the commie's job is to sew dissension and strife among the populace, and to instigate strikes and riots by reinforcing already healed doubts and beliefs about the weakness of one's own government. This will weaken moral, cause confusion, tie-up law enforcement and government services, all of which will weaken the home-front in general. It is to push the government into a position of weakness and make them ripe for capitulation, or at a minimum, blunt the sword of defiance to the enemy's goals and forces.
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znapper — 9 years ago(December 06, 2016 07:41 AM)
No, that was how the early 80's was.
Communist antagonists and disinformation was both feared and real back then.
It's like today, if someone is against the bombing of Syria.
"What? Are you an ISIS sympytiser?"
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Swordwind-4 — 13 years ago(May 04, 2012 03:11 PM)
- Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
- Gain control of all student newspapers.
- Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
http://www.rense.com/general32/americ.htm
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DoctorFell — 13 years ago(December 13, 2012 06:25 AM)
we found out about so much communist agitation from defectors soon after the wall came down, the STASI had thousands of people in the UK propagandizing for them. One such defector brought microfiche files of 280,000 operatives in the west.
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znapper — 9 years ago(December 06, 2016 07:45 AM)
In my country there major part of our teachers were left-wing (communist or Marxist, or similar, extreme feminist, pro-Palestinian, anti globalism, environmental extremists and so on and so forth ).
Heck, even today, they mostly vote on the left-most parties.
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epa101 — 9 years ago(December 18, 2016 12:29 PM)
I'd say that intellectuals worldwide are generally liberal. Being conservative is specific to whatever country you're in (e.g. being conservative in India is very different from being conservative in Ireland). Academia has long involved working across boundaries for a common cause, so it's not a conducive atmosphere for those who stick to their own culture and believe that it's always best.
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BlueonBlue2307 — 15 years ago(June 10, 2010 04:20 AM)
If you watch the scene again the woman mentions ''indusrty'' and its then that a man in the crowd shouts ''What industry!? Sheffield hasnt got any industry anymore'' ANYONE from Sheffield at that time in the 80's will know that the Thatcher government more or less closed MUCH of the industrial sections of the UK down, the mines.. Steel Mills ect Dark time for us northern folk.
Thats why the crowd turns hostile.
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dyker_the_horse — 15 years ago(June 14, 2010 04:14 AM)
But how was that the peacespeaker woman's fault? It was obviously Maggie Thatcher that shut down all the industry. The peacespeaker would almost certainly have hated Maggie Thatcher as much as the angry man and the rest of the croud; if not, much more.