ONE OF SCORSESE'S WORST?
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piggoli-imdb — 11 years ago(August 19, 2014 02:06 PM)
I don't know if you're a woman(though I guees you are), but may I ask if women look for Misogyny
Only feminists do because they are a bunch of crazy, disoriented people anyway. They will look for even the smallest detail and try to pin every blame on men while at the same time playing the victim card, loudly denouncing patriarchy. -
james-mac — 9 years ago(October 22, 2016 09:21 PM)
A whiney baby man aren't you. You don't seem to understand the smallest part of history. All your references are media. How about looking at how women have been treated as chattel right up to the present day. God men who cry like this don't deserve to be called men.
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coffeemann — 12 years ago(April 01, 2014 04:25 AM)
no way! this movie was Brilliant!
now , looking back for you first time viewers it might seem not that good when you compare everything elese marty has done.
but I saw it in the 80's a couple years after it came out I think the first time I saw it was around 1988 or something, I was 15 or 16, not a fan of pool, not really a big fan of hollywood, except a couple films, ET, star wars, indian jones or stuff, I was just a kid, but I thought it was cool at the time and I wanted to go out and play pool,
I watched it again in the early 90's about 5 years later when I was in college , played pool, worked in a bar with a pool table, had been with a couple girls, been in bars , meet those kinds of characters in pool halls, and had a little bit of life experience.
had seen scarface so I knew the actress, had seen goodfellas, so I understood the director marty scorsese and who and what he is, I knew paul newman, had seen the hustler and of course knew tom cruise.
so when I watched it that second time, I really feel in love with the lighting, the mood the director of photography used, how he lit the movie.
Michael Ballhaus would go on to work with marty again in
Goodfellas , The Age of Innocence, Gangs of New York and The Departed.
also you can get a sense of his mood with films like mambo kings, sleepers and Dracula.. so
for me, I loved Color of Money for that reason first.
Then the fast pace of the movie, the excitement of the pool life, and of course
the music sound track, the hustling nature of the characters, and the brilliant acting from the cast. -
mail-2217 — 11 years ago(May 10, 2014 12:03 AM)
First of all, this is arrogant to say, but this isn't where I expected Eddie to be at 60-something. IOW: I don't believe this is how he turned out, so it was tough to buy in from the start.
And it is a very "80's" movie and it feels more like a Hollywood movie than a 'Scorcese' movie. IOW: it looks like a LOT of directors could've made it. I think the Cruise is a little too young and the music only adds to the "80's" vibe.
And yeah, it's a mistake to do a sequel to The Hustler if yer not gonna swing for the seats. IOW: it would look a LOT better if it wasn't Hustler II.
There are worse Scorcese movies (and if you ask me, he hasn't had a truly -great- movie in a good while). -
piggoli-imdb — 11 years ago(August 19, 2014 02:01 PM)
Certainly nowhere near Goodfellas, Casino, Mean Streets, Gangs of New York, the Departed, Hugo, etc. I also watched it right after watching the Hustler (which probably didn't help matters) because the Hustler was so much more interesting.
Gotta confess that I stopped reading as soon as I saw you putting classics such as Mean Streets and Casino alongside boring movies like Gangs and Hugo. Are you for real? This is a much better movie than the kind of sh*t he makes these days -
Irish_Pete — 11 years ago(October 05, 2014 02:38 PM)
Can't disagree, this is probably the worst Scorsese film I've seen. It's more typical of the mainstream dross that polluted cinema screens in the 80s than the rest of Scorsese's work. In short it's shallow, formulaic and boring.
The real tragedy is that Newman won the Oscar for this garbage rather than any of the excellent performances for which he had previously been nominated. I guess the Academy must have been feeling sentimentally inclined that year. -
anchorman360 — 11 years ago(October 05, 2014 05:06 PM)
Definitely not the worst Scorsese movie. IMO it's better than a lot of his other movies. High quality entertainment that Newman won a well deserved Oscar for. Maybe not Newman's best but definitely up there.
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collin-reid — 11 years ago(October 22, 2014 12:54 PM)
I would not call it his worst as there is Who's Knockin' On My Door (Student Film in reality), Boxcar Bertha (His Drive-In one), Shutter Island (WAY Over done), Bringing Out The Dead, and my least favorite, New York, New York. (On paper Marty making a Noir Musical should have been great but it is a mess.)
In general , TCOM screams Marty "Commercial 1980s Hit!" saved by a good Newman performance. (Although Cruise is little over-the-top and the music is incredibly dated.) That said, the MTV moments were good and I think great practice for his masterpiece Goodfellas. -
esb90 — 9 years ago(August 28, 2016 10:55 PM)
I don't understand this preoccupation people seem to have with music being "dated" as a downside. This film was made IN the 80s, and most of it's blues, jazz and rock by legendary artists such as Eric Clapton, B.B. King, Muddy Waters Warren Zevon etc. It's the type of music you'd hear playing in a bar or pool hall in 1986, if not today.
Nobody seems to be bothered by a jazz soundtrack playing in a film from the 40s or 50s, yet, if it's in the 80's or 90s, it's somehow insufferable? -
cultfilmfreaksdotcom — 11 years ago(December 15, 2014 02:36 AM)
I think it's much better than Hugo, and anything with Leo too. The directing itself is just amazing. Almost steals the show. Along with Newman.
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DracTarashV — 11 years ago(January 10, 2015 04:50 AM)
I think it's much better than Hugo, and anything with Leo too. The directing itself is just amazing. Almost steals the show. Along with Newman.
I agree with this 100%.
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TornSprocket — 9 years ago(January 15, 2017 08:58 PM)
I think this is Scorsese's best directed film. I rate this one up there with GOODFELLAS. Sadly underrated, with one of Newman's best performances. The dynamic camera work and blocking is something to behold. Same for the editing.
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dheshanp — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 07:38 AM)
I agree with TornSprocket 100%.
This, in my opinion, is an all time classic movie which never fails to disappoint.
When I first watched it as a teen, I was more drawn to the character of Vincent. I was an aspiring pool player and naturally, the charismatic Tom Cruise brought the character to life. Numerous watches later, and Vincent and Fast Eddie never disappointed.
It was not until many years later did I really and truly connect with the character of Fast Eddy Felson. It was not until I did some growing of my own that I realised how great Paul Newmans performance was in this movie. To me, this movie literally changed from being a movie about pool, to a movie about comeback and redemption.
If people could clear their minds as to what a great acting performance should be, as if there was no template, as if all you judged by was how difficult a performance was to pull off and how well the actor did pull it off, then I think many more people would agree that this is a truly great performance. Paul Newman manages to capture a character who has faced a passion/drive in his life that he had to give up against his wishes. Life doesnt always work out the way you plan. He pulls this off brilliantly. Minimalistic but effective and rather genius. Just the right amount. We dont see a shattered man, but rather a man who hides his pain, regret and loss and then seeks redemption.He doesn't overwhelm you with this undertone, but it is there for you to see and feel which unleashes a great sadness but at the same time, an opportunity for redemption, which is a very special feeling and extremely difficult to pull off in the context of this movie. At the same time, we have a brilliant performance by a young Tom Cruise, who keeps the energy up all the time.
It is extremely difficult for a movie to be paced correctly, keeping the entertainment and energy levels high but at the same time giving the characters enough room to play with. Scorsese pulled this off brilliantly.
As for everything else, brilliant cutting, sweeping shots that you will not find in many other movies. Brilliant music as well -Clapton, Zevon, Collins etc - Yes it is dated but sounds great in this movie. It also captures the era well.
Overall, an extremely underated movie, I think mostly because people expect truly great movies and performances to be in the context of something like Ben Hur,The Godfather, Lord of the Rings, etc. People do not appreciate the art of bringing to life a good script with colorful characters, characters accessible in everyday life.