What if Scorsese and Cruise kept going?
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mercury4 — 14 years ago(January 28, 2012 12:07 PM)
Yeah, I saw Collateral. Loved him in that. The ending pissed me off. It was so cliche and had such a typical Hollywood ending. I also hated that they killed him off in the end. I was hoping he'd live to fight another day and we'd see Vincent in a sequel. But instead, he gets gunned down by a cabbie. Tom Cruise is supposed to be the bad guy in that I guess. But he made the character so likable. I was rooting for him and liked him more than Jamie's character. Henry Hill was a sleaze. He didn't deserve to have Tom Cruise play him. Why glorify him by letting a good looking charismatic guy like Tom Cruise play him. I don't know who could have played Henry Hill besides Ray Liotta. But if they stuck 100% to Tommy, I think Michael Douglas could have played him. Tommy DeSimone looked just like Michael Douglas and Michael was always great at playing dark characters. I don't think he ever worked with Scorsese. That would've been cool. I don't know who else I can picture as Jimmy, but from what I've been told, the real Jimmy wasn't like DeNiro. But I liked DeNiro in the role.
How do you think Tom would have done as Billy Costigan? I never heard him talk with a Boston accent, but he is such a better actor than DiCaprio. Tom Cruise and Martin Scorsese need to be reunited. Here's my dream cast of actors for a Scorsese picture. Robert DeNiro, Joe Pesci, Ray Liotta, Harvey Keitel, and last but not least, Tom Cruise. -
DracTarashV — 13 years ago(June 16, 2012 01:59 PM)
You're gonna educate me? Ha ha ha. Well, you did a fine job by being quite elaborate. Jeannie, you're entitled to your opinion, and I'm not going to attempt and change yours nor will you change mines. DiCaprio to me, is a one-trick pony. The closest he ever came to absolutely owning a role was nearly 20 years ago, everything else he's done has never been mesmerizing and whenever paired up against a real actor, he usually ended up getting destroyed (Daniel Day-Lewis in GONY). You may find it ridiculous that some people consider Cruise a superior actor to DiCaprio in many ways, but I myself find it ludicrous that DiCaprio is not only considered one of the "greats," but is mentioned in the same breathe as De Niro or Brando. He impressively went head to head with De Niro in This Boy's Life, but that was a long time ago and I can't give him any more credit than that (plus De Niro practically owned his scenes). Nothing he's done in the past 10 years has been risk taking, unpredictable, and acting wise, he always comes off as "DiCaprio" and never becomes the character; complete immersion into a role is something he lacks greatly. There's no real depth, raw and naturalism from DiCaprio's acting as well. I could forever discuss the reasons as to why I think nothing special about Leo as an actor, but I don't want to sound pretentious by listing actors from hundreds of films who possessed great technical acting skills that put DiCaprio to shame. He gets so much respect yet the numerous unknown actors who's acting ability truly ignites the screen with "acting genius" status, never get their acknowledgement. Seeing the trailer for "Django Unchained," it looks like Leo is not only having fun, but smiling in a role for a change, something he hasn't done in over a decade. But, the acting itself looked pathetic and forced, especially when you compare it to the clip of Joaquin Pheonix's acting for "The Master" trailer, now that was acting! Just that small clip alone, was greater and far more eerily convincing acting than anything I've ever seen from DiCaprio. All I'm saying really, is there's nothing special about DiCaprio's "talent," for me at least; so many actors in films live a role, not just play one on screen as Leo does. I've seen the majority of his work, and when it comes down to it, he's just decent. He gets the opportunity to work with great directors and somehow convinces many (such as yourself) that he's some acting genius just no. Now on to Tom Cruise, he may not be Oldman, D'Onofrio, De Niro, etc, but he's given performances that can match their best work (maybe one of De Niro's top 10), and is an overall tremendous versatile actor who's talent gets overshadowed by his personal life or "big action star" image. What makes Cruise a better actor to me is first and foremost his naturalism and effortless presence in his films, something DiCaprio lacks and thus, forces his acting that it feels fake. Tom Cruise's last great role might've been in "Collateral," but his work in "Valkyrie," "Tropic Thunder," the upcoming "Rock Of Ages," (not a movie I'm looking forward) not only featured Cruise playing a CHARACTER (not himself), but it was unpredictable, risk-taking, and far from repetitive cough unlike Leo's cough boring work. Leo has become too hackneyed for me and to others it appears so too. Cruise continues to put out these unexpected roles quite well and doesn't do the same thing. By the time he was Leo's age back in 99, he had already proved to be one of the most versatile and finest actors of his generation, and till this day he takes roles which are interesting to see once in a while. Tom easily could've played ANY role DiCaprio has done in the past 10 years by the time he was 35. There's a certain brilliance in Cruise's acting that is painfully underappreciated by many, but I'm one of those who's noticed his talent. Finally, what makes Tom Cruise a superior actor to me is his natural and effortless performances in "Risky Business," All The Right Moves," The Color Of Money" and "Rain Man" his incredible and believable transformations in films such as "Born On The 4th Of July," "Magnolia" and "Collateral" his equally great transformation and almost thespian turn in "Interview With a Vampire" and lastly, his always entertaining roles that are supported by his memorable acting "Mission: Impossible," "Minority Report" and "Tropic Thunder." Apologies for the long post, but having run into some of your previous posts, it seems that you don't take kindly to people who don't share your own opinion, and so I thought I should make myself very clear of my own opinions, which will stand. One
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thing I should mention of Cruise's acting in Collateral, a tour de force performance that makes me forget about this DiCaprio fella the subtly, facial experressions, and utter commitment Cruise had in this film was spectacular. In particular, the scene where he's sitting down having a chat with the jazz club owner then -
jeanniemotherof3 — 13 years ago(June 16, 2012 08:03 PM)
SonnyBickle,
I am very impressed by your cinema knowledge. Mainly though by your maturity and kindness in your response. I truly apologize for being rude and acting all high and mighty when someone does not share my opinion. I really will consider that from now on, Thank you.
Now, I totally agree that Cruise is incredible. I will view these films you have mentioned that I have not seen. Although I disagree on your comments of DiCaprio, and do think he is an extremely talented actor, we can agree to disagree on this one, and that is ok. I would like you to view Revolutionary Road, if you haven't and would not mind. His acting blew me away in that one. I also thought Departed was great work as with Shutter Island, and Catch Me If You can. Of course I thought he did well in Titanic, even if it may not be everyone's type of film.
Now, also wanted to agree that He is no De Niro. But to me, none really are. I feel he is in a league of his very own. Pacino, DD Lewis, and Brando being right there. Then I feel like you have your Edward Nortons, DiCaprio, Jeff Bridges, Denzel Washington, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Pitt, and so many more I am forgetting. Maybe Cruise as well. I am sure he has Pitt beat, of the ones I mentioned on talent, in my opinion. I probably need to see more of his work, and will get back to you.
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Rebekah-xo — 9 years ago(June 21, 2016 08:40 PM)
My view is that Ray Liotta was born to play that role. Cruise might be the better actor but Liotta was the perfect Henry Hill.
I'd also really like to see Tom Cruise work with Martin Scorsese again. It's been a while since we've seen him in an Oscar-worthy drama.