Was that Glasha?
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commonwealth1996 — 16 years ago(July 25, 2009 09:57 AM)
There is a possibility that the director meant for us to think it was Glasha, but however the real actress who played Glasha was unable to take part in the scene due to personal reasons (age, etc.).
I don't think so. For one, how would Glasha have gotten to that village anyway? She was back on that island waiting for them to bring back food. It's possible she would have left a day or so later, realizing food wasn't coming, but there's no reason she would have taken the exact same passage he did.
For another, we're shown that the woman who tried to save her son was drug away by her hair into some room, and it's obvious we're meant to understand that she was going to be raped.
I really think this issue is very simple. I think he thought back to the flirtatious Glasha who talked of having children and remembered that as he saw a woman who'd just be forced to have sex against her will. What was an innocent thought was now twisted by the brutality of war.
Plus, the woman at the end has very prominent bangs, and Glasha's were barely noticeable. If they'd wanted us to think they were the same person, they would have hidden that. -
Nova_UB313 — 16 years ago(July 26, 2009 12:44 PM)
I don't think so. For one, how would Glasha have gotten to that village anyway? .
I want to thank you for a number of comments you've made in regard to this film. Excellent reading and observations.
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Nova_UB313 — 16 years ago(June 25, 2009 07:33 PM)
He doesn't think it's her: he is reminded of her. He repeats the line she said earlier about wanting to love and have a child. It simply wouldn't work dramatically if it was Glasha -
The artistic reason for the similarity is so that Glasha's innocence can foreshadow this person who has been destroyed by war. Glasha's dreams of a normal life are contrasted with the "reality" of war, and we are reminded of Glasha's probable fate (i.e. starving to death like millions of Russians during the war).
Yes, I like this a lot better than what I said. Good stuff!
for him to turn around and walk away from someone he actually thought was Glasha would make no sense.
Excellent point, which I think should answer the question of whether it was her or not. Which it wasn't, obviously.
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combatreview — 16 years ago(June 26, 2009 04:53 AM)
Some additional comments if I may
The artistic reason for the similarity is so that Glasha's innocence can foreshadow this person who has been destroyed by war. Glasha's dreams of a normal life are contrasted with the "reality" of war
This is correct, but there's a little more to it, as Glasha is actually depicted as somebody who is both innocent and girlish, and dark and worn-out. Her wishes for a normal life, for having children, seem less like girlish aspirations and more like mourning for something she should have had but has been denied.
Remember - Glasha was captured, and later rescued by the partisans. It's heavily implied that horrible things happened to her, and it doesn't take much to work out that what has happened to the girl at the end has likely already happened to Glasha.
for him to turn around and walk away from someone he actually thought was Glasha would make no sense.
Again correct, and is indeed a good reason why this girl at the end is not Glasha (but also, how would Glasha have ended up there anyway?). But I think that just as we are reminded of Glasha by the girl at the end, we are also given the insidious thought that perhaps, even if it really had been Glasha, Florya would have been so brutalised and numb by that point that he would still have walked away. -
aliza_tvito — 16 years ago(June 26, 2009 11:27 AM)
The young woman in the end had had a child whom she tried to rescue, before she had been savagely raped; Glasha was a young innocent girl who indeed suffered a lot.
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strummerjoseph — 16 years ago(July 26, 2009 03:45 AM)
Does anybody know what happened to the actress who played Glasha, Olga Morinova? The actor who played Florya has got many more credits on IMDB following this movie, but Come and See is the only credit for Morinova. Just wondered, as I thought she was a remarkable presence in the earlier parts of the movie.
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TheSilverScreenJunkie — 13 years ago(June 07, 2012 10:59 PM)
Id also have to think the director wanted the viewers to THINK it was glasha, of course
you could tell it wasnt her, but it made you think twice, and that was the point of that scene
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rwsmith29456 — 14 years ago(March 12, 2012 07:20 PM)
I know at least that when she approached Flor with blood running down her legs it was her because she repeated the lines she had spoken when they met about wanting love and having children. I didn't think it was her that was thrown in the truck, but the end result was the same. Brutal gang rape.
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combatreview — 14 years ago(March 15, 2012 12:01 PM)
We hear Glasha's words but that's not her at the end. We are doubtless meant to relate the two though, as apparently Flor does. It's pretty obvious from Glasha's behaviour early in the film that she's already been raped while a prisoner.