Good but too one sided
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aliza_tvito — 13 years ago(April 19, 2012 02:17 PM)
///It wasn't Nazi Germany wanting to take over the world///You ever wonder who own the globalist private banks /// They're the ones who won the war and benefited from the deaths of many.///
blah blah blah
have a guts and say straight what exactly do you mean
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aliza_tvito — 13 years ago(April 20, 2012 02:09 PM)
///Not that every Jew is a usurer and nation-wrecker of course.///
You're very kind.
Now, as much as I understood, in order to "resist" the "private federal reserve bank", or whatever you say, you have to ravage and plunder all Europe, executing millions of civilians for being not only Jews but Poles, Gypsies, Russians? Making soap and fertilizers of the murdered human beings? Lampshades of human skin? "Experimenting" on children? Vandalizing artistic, spiritual and cultural treasures of other peoples? Designing to turn all Eastern Europe into slavery?
Well, it doesn't look like you're capable to grasp, so stay in your dreamworld full of nightmares ("perpetual debt", "globalist private banks", "banking oligarchs"), or better seek some professional help.
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jeopardy23 — 13 years ago(June 30, 2012 09:42 PM)
Where did you get the number 50 million? That plus the 25 million killed by the Nazis would mean that 75 million Soviets were killed in the Stalin Era. The Soviet Union had a population of nearly 200 million in 1941, so you are saying that the Soviet government killed nearly one quarter of its population which is completely ridiculous. The the Soviet Government killed that many people, how did the Soviet population go from 148 million in 1926 to 168 million in 1939. The U.S. population went from 106 million in 1920 to 132 million in 1940 about the same as the Soviet Growth rate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_Soviet_Union
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jeopardy23 — 13 years ago(July 01, 2012 01:26 AM)
Between the 1911 Russian Census and 1991 what was once the Russian Empire gained about 130 million people. The U.S. gained about 140 million people in that same period. The Soviet Union lost 25 million people during World War II. The high casualties during the Russian Civil War can not be blamed entirely on the Communists nor the deaths from the postwar famine.
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Chapaev36 — 13 years ago(December 02, 2012 01:19 AM)
I'm not sure what you mean. Are you suggesting it could have been more balanced by being written from numerous points of view?
This is fine, but it would have been a completely different movie.
Unless you have an issue with narratives that strictly represent a single point of view (which I think is silly), I really don't think your point makes logical sense.
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leburger — 11 years ago(June 30, 2014 02:55 PM)
Agreed. The film was definitely one-sided and biased. The way the Germans were portrayed is enough to assume that. The Germans committed heinous acts, but not all of them were some kind of monsters who enjoyed the show, like it was portrayed in the film.
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dcmMovielover — 11 years ago(October 29, 2014 08:34 PM)
The film is one-sided but it is through the eyes of one character who is a Partisan and the story takes place over a 24 hour period in one geographical location - there is no bigger picture. Also the SS unit shown in the film are based on an actual unit who were not indicative of the SS as a whole or of the German army. So whilst it is 'one-sided' it is only a snapshot, and arguably a realistic 'snap-shot'. The film should not be taken as a grand portrayal of WW2 or of the Eastern Front, because it is far from being that.
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Stan_Kubricks_Mentor — 11 years ago(November 07, 2014 02:22 PM)
I know I'm probably wasting my time as this person "netrek" is locked into its absoluteness about what it "knows".. but here goes:
ALMOST 50 million Soviet/Russian people died alright but 27 million died due to hitler via the German invasion and subsequent German genocidal practices during their invasion of the USSR. AND so it isn't so SIMPLISTIC as "Stalin did it". If 50 million did die,
it occurred from 1918 to the dissolution of the Soviet Union.- The total numbers of persons that died in the Russian Civil War is approximately 7 million or so; this include combatants and civilians (civilian deaths were higher).
- The best guess is that a maximum of 8 million Soviets/Russians/Ukrainians (YES RUSSIANS, millions of Russians perished too, mainly in the southern steppes farming region) died from the forced-collectivization famine in the early 1930s.
- Millions were shipped off to the gulag by Stalin and no one to this day knows how many perished in those gulags. The best guess by western researchers as well as Russian researchers is no more than 3 million TOPS perished.
Add the numbers up and you start getting close to 50 million (45 to be exact). But as someone else mentioned:
these numbers of deaths occurred over a 7 decade period and not JUST "under Stalin".
NOW, if you want to make claims of "tens of millions perished under dictator (insert name)" THAT WOULD BE MAO. Two western historian authors who wrote excellent books on "Mao's Great Leap Forward" BOTH agree that Mao's GLF famine killed at a maximum 35 million Chinese. One was American and the other was British. Both of them came up with that number of 35 million TOPS was from both of them gaining access to census records in China; with the British writer/historian admitting how surprised he was how easy it was for him to get to those records. HOWEVER, NEITHER author categorically state "that Mao killed 35 million".
That is their best guess and both say THE NUMBERS COULD BE LOWER.
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