most disturbing scene
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cib3 — 17 years ago(April 11, 2008 10:55 AM)
I`d have to say the scene where the Germans burn the barn was the most disturbing, especially when you see the barn doors shaking. That said I had to laugh at the German who dropped the grenade and nearly killed a few of his guys, shame he managed to pick it up and throw it in time.
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FurMint — 17 years ago(April 28, 2008 05:24 PM)
Yes, the people desperately trying to knock down the door was a very hard hitting scene, but I also had a hard time getting rid of the noise in my head of the screaming from within the barn when the soldiers were throwing in grenades.
Also, the facial expressions and the wordless interactions between Floria and the girl (forgot the name) in the village when he's trying to find his family.
This is not the angle of the dangle!! This is not the angle of the dangle!!!! -
Painbow — 17 years ago(May 16, 2008 02:25 PM)
I actually thought the most disturbing scene was the Hitler scarecrow..it seemed to represent the Russian peoples total obsession, addiction, dependence and hatred for the brutality that had befallen them..and in a comical cartoony way.which made it all the more disturbing
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vadimo1 — 17 years ago(May 24, 2008 04:42 AM)
i must add that watching interview with Elem Klimov, he said that there was so much more he could add to the film but it would of made it impossibly painful to watch.
He red book which was compiled by 3 men who went Belarus villages to interview people who survived the war and witnessed cruelty and brutality of German solders. -
sleepingbag — 17 years ago(May 26, 2008 06:38 PM)
I just watched this today; very intense movie. I agree with previous posters that the part when Florya and Glasha were running and she's turns to see all the villagers dead behind the houses probably the most disturbing part. Also when the boy talks to his father after the Nazis nearly burned him to a crisp.
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lionbarcrunch — 17 years ago(May 27, 2008 06:39 AM)
I think the disturbance of this scene is made my two factors:
- The element of surprize and unprediction. If Glascha didn't turn when running after Florya, we probably wouldn't see it. So suddenly, you see this really disturning and unsettling scene. You weren't prepared (In others scenes like the one where village peasants were forced into the barn and incinerated, you could predict what was going to happen).
- The fact that this scene remains obscure. You only see a short glimpse of it (Florya didn't even see it), so it's up to you imagine the cruelty behind it. How the village peasants were forced behind the house, how they were killed etc.
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thewubbelupagus — 17 years ago(May 28, 2008 01:17 AM)
The burning village scene is just brutal in its complete over-the-topness. The viewer is assulted with a crazed barrage of sensory input from snarling, barking dogs,engines roaring; laughing, shouting, weird polka music, breaking glass, explosions, gunshots, screaming, crackling flames, and a fire you can see from space.
Also, I think one of the most disturbing things about this film is the kid's face. He just looks so completely and totally insane and physically sick with terror. And of course, the constant bizzare staring shots make the most of it. -
oneloveall — 17 years ago(November 18, 2008 01:30 AM)
lionbarcrunch got it right as to why the body-pile reveal was the most (initially) disturbing sequencethe driving away perspective he uses coupled with the fast element of shock.
Another scene no one specifically mentioned, although certainly not most disturbing in the traditional sense the way the director, male and female lead did that minute-plus swamp survival tracking shot was one of the more agonizing, hopelessly conveyed depictions fighting against the current of death I have viewed.
Of course though, when taken as a single scene, the entire mass-burning-and-surrounding-directed-mayhem eclipses everything else with its long-form brain-searing effects.Somewhere in the middle of this sequence it becomes utterly frightening and believable despite any flaws; the crushing tyranny of hedonistic chaos all around the stench of unjust death in its lowest form is articulated to a point that supersedes rage and gives you the cinematic equivalency of loosing everything you thought decent in humanity, and then loosing your soul itself..What a fearless dedication to.fear that shoot in particular must have been, surely a landmark achievement of War film production that comes as close as possible to fictionalizing the blackest of mankind's facts.
I could only wish a fraction of directors today have a fraction of Klimov's dedication at making anti-ignorant art. -
commonwealth1996 — 16 years ago(July 25, 2009 10:37 AM)
Another scene no one specifically mentioned, although certainly not most disturbing in the traditional sense the way the director, male and female lead did that minute-plus swamp survival tracking shot was one of the more agonizing, hopelessly conveyed depictions fighting against the current of death I have viewed.
I agree. That one, especially with the music in the background, was one of the, if not the most disturbing parts, especially after all we'd just seen. -
Niffiwan — 17 years ago(August 01, 2008 07:41 PM)
After burning the village, some laughing German soldiers carry out a bed with a very old grandma lying on it and tell her "you'll create many children for us yet, granny!". Then as they're leaving, the camera shows that she's looking after them and smiling in gratitude.
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