Why females hate this movie?
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commonwealth1996 — 16 years ago(July 24, 2009 05:44 PM)
Not being in positions of power makes that difficult. I'm sorry, but I never bought the idea that if women were in charge there'd be no war. Women can be far more vicious than men would ever dream.
And I'm saying this as a woman. Also, I liked the movie. It wasn't enjoyable per se, but it is a great film. -
mjelliott9 — 15 years ago(October 23, 2010 01:43 AM)
"Not being in positions of power makes that difficult. I'm sorry, but I never bought the idea that if women were in charge there'd be no war."
Good point. There's a reason why the queen is the most powerful piece on the chess board. It wasn't before the turn of the 15th century, when Margaret of Anjou burst onto the scene in England. -
AlexxtheOdd — 12 years ago(September 17, 2013 01:18 PM)
"Women can be far more vicious than men would ever dream".
Dumbest thing I've read in a long time. Hopefully this person doesn't still crowd IMDB with their beep Women are no more or less evil than men, if anything humans ourselves are vicious, selfish creatures. That I can agree with. But to call women THE most vicious when it comes down to it is a huge misogynistic statement, whether you meant it so or not. -
Moondrop_C — 17 years ago(February 12, 2009 03:42 PM)
I haven't seen it yet (plan to, even though I'm female) but I'd guess it's the same reason that guys rate romance movies low. Some genres appeal to men more than women and vice versa. There are women who like war movies or action movies or horror movies, and hate romance movies but it's the exception rather than the rule, though. There are very few men who'll admit to enjoying a corny, hokey, sappy love story and even fewer who'll say they hate war or action movies.
I have seen Saving Private Ryan, Full Metal Jacket and other war-ish movies and I've always enjoyed horror movies. I also enjoy silly romance comedies like Notting Hill and Miss Congeniality. Go figure. -
bluez_inc — 17 years ago(February 14, 2009 11:06 AM)
WOW.
This is nowhere near what you are talking about. This is in no way an "action movie". I'm sorry, but I take offense to this movie being compared with Saving Private Ryan and Full Metal Jacket because those were action movies, not true war movies. "Come and See" is a true war movie. It doesn't excite anybody. It's an unflinching horrorfest of war atrocities witnessed by a boy.
Sure, Saving Private Ryan had some gore and some people going, "oh, the horror!" but they still glamorized war and made it enjoyable. Now, if you're going to argue with me on that point, let me first point out that Medal of Honor is a video game which recreates just about every scene from that film. If your portrayal of war can be turned into a video game, then by it's very nature it is a "fun" and enjoyable take on war and thereby, a failure.
That isn't to say it's not good, those movies are very entertaining, but true war films? I think not.
Come and See will stay with you for the rest of your life, it's something one would hesitate to watch again because of the trails and horrors one must go through when viewing it. It isn't something you can just pop on and watch for a little while. It's not the kind of movie you'll find playing on TBS on a Saturday afternoon.
So this isn't just a matter of "guys dig action movies and girls like romantic comedies" because this film is not for entertainment. It is truly art in every sense. Let's just say, if someone made a video game version of this movie, it would be the worst video game ever made and people would burst out crying in the middle of it. -
sammy_mendel — 16 years ago(June 11, 2009 02:59 PM)
Woah there, laddie. Full Metal Jacket is NOT an action movie. First of all, it is profoundly anti-war and secondly, there's barely any action in it.
Technically speaking SPR wasn't either, although I agree with you that it made war enjoyable in places (the sniper stuff was slightly too cool). Action movies follow very specific trends, and require an action hero, a love interest, a baddie, and above all must downplay the cost of human life (imagine if Rambo cried a single tear for every goon he downed). You can say that it was a less poweful war movie, but it is a war movie nonetheless. -
A.P. — 16 years ago(November 07, 2009 05:18 AM)
I agree. Full Metal Jacket is in no way an action movie and certainly doesn't glamorize war. Kubrick was a staunch anti-war activist who made two other anti-war movies aside from FMJ: Dr. Strangelove and Paths of Glory.
While Saving Private Ryan might have been a bit glamorized here or there, it certainly didn't promote war as anything exciting or enjoyable. -
Dantu00e8s — 15 years ago(September 27, 2010 01:49 PM)
Calm down, defensive-pants. This movie is clearly not an action movie, but it does contain a far amount of war action, so it's not beyond the pale to call it such. That's a reasonable, if badly phrased reason to not watch this.
A more accurate reason would be that it's a turd. -
carrick-3 — 17 years ago(February 13, 2009 11:48 AM)
Do they hate this movie? I wonder if many have actually seen it -
although, judging by my female friends then I suspect that many
would opt for another genre. And while I myself wouldn't (and am female 47yrs)
then I can, in a way, understand them (or at least have a theory)
War is very much a male domain - the women involved are almost always
victims.. in smaller rolls. People tend naturally to associate themselves with
thier own sex on the screen - seeing 'yourself' portrayed as either an object or a rape victim in a situation created by and dominated by men and in which we have no control becomes a bit wearing in the long run.
Now, PLEASE don't think I'm a man hater (hardly! : ) and this is just a general thought regarding war films. Neither do I think that women only watch films that make them feel good - but I couldn't help thinking while reading through the 'most disturbing scene' thread 'I don't hate this film but I'm not sure I could bear the distress of seeing it again'.
A final comment - is it just my imagination, or do many/most men baulk at the idea of seeing a film consisting of almost only (clothed!;) women?
I think this film is worthy of all the praise it gets - it's so good, and so disturbing, i'll probably never watch it again. -
chrissyharker — 16 years ago(August 17, 2009 01:27 AM)
As a young female I can't empathize enough how powerful this movie is for young women.
There's a scene at the end where a girl is stumbling back from being raped and beaten by the Germans and all she can mutter is "to love, to have children". Two of the very basic rights that should never be taken away from anyone, let alone a woman.
