Was Eyeball really gonna let Ace kill his brother?
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zoolzool — 13 years ago(January 14, 2013 09:24 PM)
This was an interesting scene because Ace was going to slit Chris' throat with his switchblade. The thing is, a switchblade has a pointed tip for stabbing, not a sharp edge for slicing, cutting, chopping, dicing, etc.
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Ace broke his own brothers arm in the book. Can't expect much from a guy like that.
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milesaugust — 13 years ago(January 20, 2013 07:15 PM)
Keep in mind. These are Stephen King bullies. they are a special kind of sociopathic. More sadistic than the average movie bully or even real life bullies. they stab little brothers in the nuts, beat girls with baseball bats, dump pigs blood on prom queens, destroy a nerds car because it's nice, murder the neighborhood gay kid, with in Stephen King stories is standard bullying.
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ponyboycurtis456 — 13 years ago(March 18, 2013 03:18 PM)
I think the relationship between chris and eyeball didn't really exist eyeball treated chris as an enemy to keep his status alongside ace,chris i think tried to remain indifferent towards his family but i think chris had too much feelings of affection and sympathy towards people and therefore i believe he loved his brother and even though he wasn't a good role model like younger siblings oftenly do they try to seek awareness off there older siblings.If your question is would eyeball let ace kill chris if the senario was real i think because eyeball did say "come on ace." he would probably intervene but none the less ace may have still killed chris with his friends holding eyeball back probably this is speaking so without gordie with the gun.I understand how you would be disturbed i would be too but i guess i didn't really think much of it,thanks for highlighting the point.
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GirlwonderReturns — 12 years ago(January 17, 2014 07:02 AM)
Didn't Eyeball say something to Ace? I haven't seen the movie in a while but I'd swear that when Ace started toward Chris with the knife, Eyeball said something like "Ace, come on, man", like he was trying to reason with him. Or am I totally off?
I need to watch it again, I guess.
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rek16803 — 12 years ago(January 17, 2014 04:49 PM)
Didn't Eyeball say something to Ace? I haven't seen the movie in a while but I'd swear that when Ace started toward Chris with the knife, Eyeball said something like "Ace, come on, man", like he was trying to reason with him. Or am I totally off?
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irishfl80 — 12 years ago(January 23, 2014 11:46 PM)
Eyeball indeed would've let it happen. Infact when Eyeball says "Ace, come on, man" it was King's way of showing that he didn't want Ace to kill Chris, but he was too much of a coward to do anythingother then the simple pleato stop him.
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CrazyJim2004 — 12 years ago(February 02, 2014 02:05 AM)
I think it was also a way of showing how off the path Ace actually is in contrast with the rest of the gang. They are all these sort of loud-mouthed bully types but in this moment and the one where Ace plays chicken with the car, we see that he really is not acting this way for show.
I think Eyeball was playing along until that point because he expected his brother to back down and then Ace pull back but at that moment, he realized neither one of them was going to stop and there was nothing he could do about it.
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GirlwonderReturns — 12 years ago(February 03, 2014 08:57 AM)
I think it was also a way of showing how off the path Ace actually is in contrast with the rest of the gang. They are all these sort of loud-mouthed bully types but in this moment and the one where Ace plays chicken with the car, we see that he really is not acting this way for show.
I think Eyeball was playing along until that point because he expected his brother to back down and then Ace pull back but at that moment, he realized neither one of them was going to stop and there was nothing he could do about it.
I like this theory. Eyeball, Billy, Charlie and those guys were punks, even juvenile delinquents, but they weren't legit psychos like Ace. I imagine that Chris had always ended up backing down before, so Eyeball hadn't even considered the idea that he wouldn't this time as well. So he had no "plan B". But I don't think he wanted his brother dead or would have been OK with Ace killing him, any more than Billy would have been had it been Vern instead of Chris. Eyeball was just a coward - he was afraid of Ace (as I think it was implied that Billy and Charlie were too), so maybe wouldn't have done as much to stop it as he could have.
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fistoffury — 11 years ago(August 02, 2014 08:54 PM)
Keep in mind. These are Stephen King bullies. they are a special kind of sociopathic. More sadistic than the average movie bully or even real life bullies. they stab little brothers in the nuts, beat girls with baseball bats, dump pigs blood on prom queens, destroy a nerds car because it's nice, murder the neighborhood gay kid, with in Stephen King stories is standard bullying.
OK so dumping the pigs blood on the prom queen is from Carrie, but in which Stephen King films does a little brother get stabbed in the nuts? Also, in which Stephen King film do girls get beaten with baseball bats, in which Stephen King film does a nerd's car get destroyed, and in which Stephen King film does a gay kid get murdered?