the turtle scene
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spyretto — 15 years ago(June 07, 2010 06:39 PM)
the natural order of things in the world we live in can be quite 'gross' considering its the law of bigger fish eats smaller fish but moreover different people and cultures have different sensibilities of what is gross and what isn't.
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trog-oz — 20 years ago(January 13, 2006 01:23 PM)
It's no worse that when you go into a restaurant, select your live lobster from a tank and the chef drops in into boiling water to kill it and cook it. This is a common practice is many high class restaurants in the West.
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none909 — 19 years ago(April 30, 2006 10:15 PM)
If the whole of America consumed 10% less beef, enough grain would be salvaged from cow factories to feed the 22 million people who die annually from hunger. Its not just animal cruelty, its got implications that affect everyone.
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bjkane — 19 years ago(May 05, 2006 07:41 AM)
What about that scene in Oldboy when he eats the squid alive. It looked pretty real. That was crazy. And this movie was pretty cool. Especially that food fetish yakuza dude who introduced the movie by screaming at the dude in the theatre for eating potato chips loudly.
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rooprect — 19 years ago(June 14, 2006 06:44 AM)
The squid scene in Oldboy
was
real. Actually they had to do it 4 times (4 squids) before they got it right. There's a pretty intelligent debate about it in the Oldboy imdb board.
http://imdb.com/board/10364569/board/thread/44467978
I'm always interested in hearing peoples' opinions on the matter as long as they can remain level headed and refrain from shouting insults at each other (as is usually the case). -
david-goble — 19 years ago(June 14, 2006 01:35 PM)
If the whole of America consumed 10% less beef, enough grain would be salvaged from cow factories to feed cows in other countries. The industrial grain fed to cows in 'cow factories' is in no way similar to the grain you eat in your bread or prepare in a rice cooker. Regardless, if America consumed 10% less beef a year, do you suggest they replace their beef consumption with nothing? Or should the 22 million people who die every year from hunger continue dying in order to feed the 250 million people in the U.S. who are now 10% hungrier?
Considering this is a discussion (or an attempt at one) about Japanese animal cruelty, you should take a look at the living conditions of Kobe Beef Japanese Black cattle (Tashima-Ushi). In Japan that beef sells for over $100 a pound and quite a bit more in the U.S. They live a more pampered life and eat better grain than most Americans. Every cow dies, whether by man or by nature, so why not treat them really well when they are alive? Is it more humane to give them a good life and the best food and then kill them and sell them to restaurants the world over? Or to set them 'free' to wander about on an island until they die of natural causes? (Natural Causes include starvation, dehydration, being killed by hunters, and in very rare cases, old age.) -
kasiak — 19 years ago(June 24, 2006 05:37 AM)
umm I was literally made to see that movie during my Japanese classes and it was terrible! I just don't get what's so cool about that. I generally like Japanese movies, well, even the old ones, but Tampopo is a total disaster. It makes no sense to me. And, what's worst, I'm vegan and it really hurt me seeing the turtle assassinated! I thought such things where illegal, even in Japan, or at least it should get 21 mark, but apparently no. That's not a movie for sensitive people, not at all.
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mangajunky — 19 years ago(July 12, 2006 02:13 PM)
The slaughter of the turtle was shown for a number of reasons. First and foremost was to show the origin of this particular dish. Perhaps you were put off by it, but it is what it isthe preparation of a very rare and exclusive dish. You don't have to enjoy what happened, but it is there to show another aspect of food.
The preparation of food from animals is not always pretty, but it is important to know where your food comes from. If it is difficult for you to watch then perhaps you are better off being a vegan like kasiak.
There are many things in life that people are not interested in seeing, however when seeing a film that explores food from multiple points of view you will expect to see some things that are not always pleasant. Isn't it better to see something like that to be exposed to something different - even if it's not something to your taste? - rather than ignore the way different people live? If nothing else it will further cement your opinions.
I love Tampopo - it's one of the films that really got me jazzed about Japanese culture. One of the first things I did when I visited Japan was sit down to a bowl of ramen noodles. There was an awesome shop near where I was staying in Akasaka.
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khu — 19 years ago(August 21, 2006 09:02 AM)
" I thought such things where illegal, even in Japan, or at least it should get 21 mark, but apparently no. That's not a movie for sensitive people, not at all."
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buzzkill1999 — 19 years ago(August 31, 2006 04:07 PM)
My Japanese girlfriend likes to eat her raw sea urchin fresh out of the shell, while the spines are still moving. I don't find it disturbing but not exactly appetizing either. I just file it under "different strokes for different folks."
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BigBabou — 19 years ago(November 29, 2006 05:12 AM)
"umm I was literally made to see that movie during my Japanese classes and it was terrible! I just don't get what's so cool about that. I generally like Japanese movies, well, even the old ones, but Tampopo is a total disaster. It makes no sense to me."
just because you didn't get it, doesn't make it a disastrous movie.
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dj-anon — 16 years ago(March 26, 2010 04:39 AM)
As soon as I saw that scene I knew there was going to be a silly thread about it on IMDB. Unless you are a vegan that has proof they didn't eat the turtle afterwards, your being hypocrite.
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