The names 4 of six or 5 of seven.
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foebane72 — 9 years ago(August 31, 2016 12:36 AM)
Wouldn't the Borg be more efficient using binary codes for identification?Something like Borg 100100111101 talking to Borg 1010001110101.
Spending a little time on Windows Programmer's Calculator, I see that:
Borg 2365 would be talking to Borg 5237 (Decimal - more efficient than Binary, don'tcha think??)
Or even better:
Borg 93D would be talking to Borg 1475 (Hexadecimal - more efficient than Decimal, wouldn't you say?)
In fact, converting Naki's example of 75876889344 (in Decimal) would give the following:
11AA9D7300 in Hexadecimal
1000110101010100111010111001100000000 in Binary (OUCH!)
Just in case you're not sure, Decimal is Base 10, Binary is Base 2, and Hexadecimal is Base 16, and all of the above are identical in numerical value, even though less and less symbols are used to represent the values as the Bases increase. Hell, there might even be a Base 26 possible, using every letter of the alphabet to represent numbers!
I'm sure the Borg would have some even more efficient method in use. I'm just showing how inflexible Binary and Decimal would be for representing such huge numbers as Naki did.
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Nexus71 — 9 years ago(August 29, 2016 03:31 PM)
Seven's full designation is Seven of Nine Tertiary Adjunct of Unimatrix 01.
Hence my reply that it would be more efficient for Borg to identify themselves with binary codes,and since we as a viewer don't know what the hell a Tertiary Adjunct of Unimatrix 01 is or does we don't really loose much information,unless you are Borg obsessed or actually watched the episodes that deal with the Unimatrix on VOY,and even that won't explain it fully(to my knowledge or I could be wrong).And how can someone designated 7 0f 9 be
tertiary adjunct
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foebane72 — 9 years ago(August 31, 2016 09:35 AM)
Hence my reply that it would be more efficient for Borg to identify themselves with binary codes
Nexus, I've already explained why that is NOT the case. Go read my other posts here.
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Nexus71 — 9 years ago(August 31, 2016 01:31 PM)
Well since they are highly integrated with the Collective which in effect is a giant computer to which every drone is connected one would assume the Borg would use binary codes to send and receive information to the Collective(going by the assumption computer science evolved in a similar fashion as here on Earth).And when we go by that assumption we must assume that each drone has his/hers own individual identification code when connecting with the Collective so why not use that same identification code as it's identity?Got this idea after watching the Binars a couple of weeks ago and they used binary code as identification,so I asked myself "Why didn't the Borg use a similar system since they seem so much like the Binars?"
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foebane72 — 9 years ago(September 01, 2016 05:51 AM)
Well since they are highly integrated with the Collective which in effect is a giant computer to which every drone is connected one would assume the Borg would use binary codes to send and receive information to the Collective(going by the assumption computer science evolved in a similar fashion as here on Earth).And when we go by that assumption we must assume that each drone has his/hers own individual identification code when connecting with the Collective so why not use that same identification code as it's identity?Got this idea after watching the Binars a couple of weeks ago and they used binary code as identification,so I asked myself "Why didn't the Borg use a similar system since they seem so much like the Binars?"
Did you not eventually check out my post on different numbering bases, Nex?
In it, I stated that a number can be represented by ANY base you choose: Binary is Base 2, Decimal is Base 10, and the point is, whilst the higher the base may need more symbols to represent every unit (0,1 in Binary; 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 in Decimal), the crucial fact is there would be LESS units needed to represent that number (2,4,8,16,32 in Binary) or (10,100,1000,1000,10000) in Decimal. Hexadecimal is Base 16, which is represented as (0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,A,B,C,D,E,F) which has been used in all Computer Science classes since, forever. And I know that "4D7F2A4" is far more memorable than "100110101111111001010100100" and
communicates exactly the same information.
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RubyHypatia — 9 years ago(August 29, 2016 11:19 PM)
I don't get into zombie movies or TV shows because dead people roaming around is just too beyond creepy for me. With the Borg, they only appear to be zombies, so the creepiness level well within my comfort zone.