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    Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man — 1 year ago(April 19, 2024 01:23 AM)

    It's a different class of ship in Star Trek canon.

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      RobofNJ — 1 year ago(April 19, 2024 02:44 AM)

      What are you talking about? No it isn't.

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        Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man — 1 year ago(April 21, 2024 01:41 AM)

        Romulans in Next Generation use
        D'deridex class
        starships. Romulans in the original series use
        T'Liss-class
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              Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man — 1 year ago(April 21, 2024 01:49 AM)

              I don't think I can really evaluate their relative technological levels. I can say that Deep Space Nine was more advanced than other space stations we saw.

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                RobofNJ — 1 year ago(April 21, 2024 01:51 AM)

                I'm so sorry. It's just I've seen so many dumbasses who say that and it's annoying.

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                  RobofNJ — 1 year ago(April 21, 2024 01:52 AM)

                  And I know when one small inocucuous comment leads to bigger dumber comments. It's a case of "That's where it starts," if you know what mean.
                  And the notion is that the Cardassians have not updated their ships. To be fair, the Romulan ships at least in "TNG" era were about 50 or 60 years old in design just like the Cardassians. At least in "TNG" era neither ship updated their designs. It could just be that the Federation had not been familiar with the Romulans that long. But I hoenstly got the impression that the update was about their cloaking.
                  The only thing I can accept about the Cardassians losing the battle in "The Wounded" was that the D was the newest ship relatively speaking. So it was not that they were behind (everything about their behavior and attitudes show a race that's more advanced). It's that the Federation beat them to it. In the Old World, countries that were advanced always advanced slightly before or after a major power. The Federation was afraid of the Cardassians with good reason. They feared their technology, their prowess. And people are so dumb when the canon shows them as more advanced than the major 3.

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                    Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man — 1 year ago(April 21, 2024 02:05 AM)

                    Cardassians were introduced in "The Wounded" so the writers may not have had the idea of making them a continuing presence and main enemy at that time.

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                      RobofNJ — 1 year ago(April 21, 2024 02:07 AM)

                      Again my apologies for insulting you. I just get tired of idiots.

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                        Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man — 1 year ago(April 21, 2024 02:12 AM)

                        Don't worry about it.

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                          RobofNJ — 1 year ago(April 21, 2024 02:15 AM)

                          Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man said...
                          Don't worry about it.
                          They were menacing in that episode. I think the writers were going for a big bad, similar to the Ferengi, who could unite the major 3. And it was more successful. Everything about them showed the two at the brink of war.
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                          showed them as a threat. This is a case of not jumping to conclusions due to certain things, however, as some said, one battle isn't enough to determine superiority, and Picard never said Macet was at a serious disadvantage. The idiot make it seem that Picard would have easily destroyed them. It's plot armor to be honest. But a Cardassian ship got damanged by the Klingons in "WOTW" and it withstood the damage for a good 20 minutes before the Defiant got to the coordinates, and another good 15 minutes before it finally vaporized. It wasn't like they destroyed the ship that easily. I would imagine that's what would have happened if Picard did destroy Macet's ship.

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                            RobofNJ — 1 year ago(April 21, 2024 01:59 AM)

                            Plus one thing I think refutes the moronic nonsense said about the Cardassians is "The Chase." The Cardassians were the least afraid that Romulans were after them. In fact, it was the Romulan head commander who, sevilely, says, "Maybe we can make a compromise?" Maybe they were scared of the Cardassians themselves. The Cardassians were clearly not afraid in their presence. The Klingons might have been fearful of both of them. Or if they were afraid it's more like in the Federation way. The Romulan's main advantage (even though they are clearly the Federation's match) is their cloaking device. It could very well be a hide for the fact that they are behind the Federation and Cardassians.
                            Klingons aren't advanced that much except in fighting and their ships, and their empire. They don't value science, they don't value the aspects that advance a society.

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                              RobofNJ — 1 year ago(April 16, 2024 02:00 AM)

                              The Cardassians are far more alien and I had a hard time relating to them. Them and the Dominion as well. They both loved technology. The Romulans loved technology but they were far more romanticist as a species. They seemed more human-like than truly alien like the Borg, Cardassians, Species 8472, etc..

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                                Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man — 1 year ago(April 16, 2024 02:13 AM)

                                The Cardassians are a reptilian species which gives them a far more alien look than more human looking Romulans and maybe taps into instinctual fears about lizards and snakes.

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                                  RobofNJ — 1 year ago(April 16, 2024 02:22 AM)

                                  Even the Bajorans are more human-like.

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                                    RobofNJ — 1 year ago(April 16, 2024 02:06 AM)

                                    It's a hypothetical question. Obviously 99% of their episodes are serious, but in a lot of times they have that "Mafia" thing about them. You know the Mafia? Always threatening and held a strong grip on certain parts of New York, but the underlings are always messing it up for them. And getting caught.
                                    That's how the Romulans came off to me.

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                                      Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man — 1 year ago(April 16, 2024 02:18 AM)

                                      It is unintentionally comic, like the DA always losing to Perry Mason.

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                                        RobofNJ — 1 year ago(April 16, 2024 02:20 AM)

                                        True, but you gotta admit there's something about the Romulan torturing Geordi that was funny. Not funny making light of what happens to him, just the manner in which they did it. It seems like they desperate. Madred was far more cold and calculating. He did what he could to damage Picard and break him.

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                                          The<>Mechanic — 1 year ago(April 16, 2024 02:26 AM)

                                          The feringi are comic relief
                                          Ho Ho Ho

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