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    jerryripple — 15 years ago(April 02, 2011 11:54 AM)

    Not only did Rip not want to collect the money, he would have kept giving him drugs to make sure that the tab never disappeared, and probably would have liked it to get a little bigger. You know this because when Clay tells Rip that he will pay julian's debt, Rip wants him to mind his own business and stay out of it. Doesn't Rip's tough guy Bill/Hop attack Clay to try to run him off?
    Rip gave Julian drugs when he knew that Julian couldn't pay so that he could pimp him. Pimping Julian was more lucrative that just getting the cash. Also I thought that he did it because he was jealous of Julian's charisma and the fact that people loved Julian and followed him, his families wealth, the fact that Julian had such a gilded life. Rip liked having that power over him. He wouldn't have let go easily.

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      jpowell180 — 11 years ago(January 02, 2015 07:25 PM)

      I don't think that Rip was jealous of Julian's family's wealth, as Rip's family was probably even wealthier; I believe Rip's dad was CEO of a major studio like Warner Brothers or something along those lines.

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        Kompressor_Fan — 10 years ago(August 14, 2015 12:04 PM)

        In the book, there is a scene where Rip shows a very horrible snuff film at one of his parties that Clay is attending. Rip enjoys watching this, but Clay leaves the room and goes out on the deck disgusted. Rip basically tells him he's a chump for walking out and to not feel bad for the young woman who was killed in the film because, as he says, "she's just some nothing. People like that were born to die for the entertainment of people like us." That may not be an exact quote (read the book some years back), but it's at least 90% correct.
        I think that part told a lot about what Rip was all about.
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          smshah232 — 9 years ago(November 12, 2016 06:05 AM)

          That's actually Trent's party, not Rip's. Trent gets his hands on that snuff video. You're probably confusing the snuff film scene with the scene where Rip and Spin have that 12 year old girl tied up in one of their bedrooms to be gangraped.

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            AfroGeek — 11 years ago(March 05, 2015 11:51 PM)

            Agreed. Drug dealers don't keep giving you dope on credit if they care about the money. He had him strung out doing gay tricks for his friends. That was probably far more valuable.
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                suesmith3 — 10 years ago(May 13, 2015 03:44 AM)

                It was paid by the father's GF to RIP. The score was settled.

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                  Sethiswas88 — 10 years ago(December 29, 2015 12:25 AM)

                  Ws tht mentioned in the book. Becuse it didn't come cross like tht in the movie.

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                    TequilaMockingbird5150 — 9 years ago(September 18, 2016 06:30 AM)

                    There was also a part in the book, if I Remember correctly, where Rip and others killed a young girl on a playground.
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                      dl4060 — 9 years ago(September 21, 2016 02:07 PM)

                      In the book Rip and the others kidnap a teenage girl and drug her up and gang rape her. I don't remember them killing a girl on a playground.

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                        TequilaMockingbird5150 — 9 years ago(September 21, 2016 06:22 PM)

                        after she was dead they left her left her hanging upside down on a swingset. Maybe I am getting this conflated with another book.
                        The sun shone, having no alternative, on the nothing new. Samuel Beckett

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                          TequilaMockingbird5150 — 9 years ago(September 21, 2016 06:30 PM)

                          after she was dead they left her left her hanging upside down on a swingset. Maybe I am getting this conflated with another book.
                          The sun shone, having no alternative, on the nothing new. Samuel Beckett

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                            smshah232 — 9 years ago(November 12, 2016 06:09 AM)

                            Must be from another thing, it isn't in the Less Than Zero novel. There's a snuff film scene involving Trent Daniel Clay and Blair, a scene where they go to a back alley to see the corpse of a kid who overdosed involving Clay Rip Spin and Trent, and the scene with the drugged/tied up 12 year old girl involving Clay Rip Spin and Trent.
                            There also isn't a drug debt between Rip and Julian in the novel. Julian owes to a pimp named Finn in the book. The Rip and Finn characters were sort of made into one character in the movie (or two: Rip and his henchman Bill. Bill is more like Finn than Rip in that he keeps getting Julian high when he's trying to stay clean).

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