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    puplover — 10 years ago(October 05, 2015 02:02 AM)

    I've seen this movie many times and I always wondered: is there any other evidence of Costner's TRUE feeling for Susan other than the scene in Gene Hackman's office when he first finds out who the dead girl is? He excuses himself, goes into the bathroom, and falls to the floor. That was a private moment of grief.
    Last scene he screams "You wanted me to be her lover, I was her lover!" Sow/o the bathroom scene, he could have been faking every single moment in the movie. Was there any other "proof" that Costner was just not using Susan to get to Hackman aside from the bathroom scene?

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      bossat2822 — 10 years ago(November 02, 2015 03:32 PM)

      Probably just shows you he is human, after all. Even though he's ordered to be her lover, it stands to reason he developed some feelings toward her. Even if he was robotic about it, he expressed grief over the death of an innocent woman. May even felt guilty he couldn't stop it, or if he suspected at the time Hackman was the murderer- felt somewhat responsible for her death

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        hilaryjrp — 10 years ago(December 03, 2015 03:49 AM)

        Was there any other "proof" that Costner was just not using Susan to get to Hackman aside from the bathroom scene?
        Oh, wow! I mean, this is a lightbulb moment for my thick skull. I've seen this movie at least a dozen times and never once considered that Susan was a "mission." Wow. Thanks!

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          puplover — 10 years ago(December 04, 2015 08:19 PM)

          Ha ha, glad I could help:)
          Since then I looked for clues to see if he REALLY fell in love w/ her. And the only proof was his devastated reaction in the bathroom.

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            hilaryjrp — 10 years ago(December 05, 2015 04:43 AM)

            Since then I looked for clues to see if he REALLY fell in love w/ her. And the only proof was his devastated reaction in the bathroom.
            Definitely. It's not why my pea-brain didn't realize she was a mission, but definitely, he fell for her, I think because she was pretty naive and innocent despite being a kept woman.

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              smoke0 — 10 years ago(January 31, 2016 10:05 PM)

              Hmm, let's see, the Russians found him sitting on the ground next to her grave, soyeah, I think he fell in love with her..OH and of course he didn't have to go on seeing her once he started working for Brice, either, so..
              Revenge is a dish that best goes stale.

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                lynnrnsd — 10 years ago(February 18, 2016 03:17 PM)

                I think his reaction in the bathroom showed real devastation. He looked like he was going to barf. I don't know- maybe I'm just a romantic. But I like to believe his affection for her was real.

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                  lynnrnsd — 10 years ago(February 18, 2016 03:37 PM)

                  Can't edit. But I'm watching it now, and I suddenly wonder if it's grief or fear that they are catching on to him being "Yuri".

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                    mytravelbug1 — 10 years ago(March 04, 2016 03:01 AM)

                    I thought the same thing, don't know if it's grief or panic.This is a great movie.

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                      tavives — 9 years ago(November 08, 2016 11:54 AM)

                      I always thought he went to the bathroom to collect himself because he immediately realized that he (not known to them) was the person they were going to try and pin the murder on.
                      I know if I were in that situation, I'd have gone weak-kneed and nauseous as well.

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                        eelb — 9 years ago(December 16, 2016 09:23 PM)

                        This is similar to some weaknesses in a few Hitchcock films. Early in the film, the viewer is led to believe, convincingly, that many occurrences are coincidental. Later, it's revealed that it was all part of a plan that the protagonist was a participant in, and had full knowledge of.
                        Such plot devices generally don't hold up well through repeated viewing.

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