http://www.cracked.com/article/178_the-5-most-unintentionally-racist-movies-about-racism/

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nubbytubbybiatchesgalore — 15 years ago(January 11, 2011 04:22 AM)

i agree with you completely, digialdiva. too many people quote lincoln from his debates with steven a. douglas, and ignore his later writings and changed sentiments.
to rebel1776, lincoln changed his views, and eschewed his earlier supremacists views (which were not racist as we would understand the term racism today. he thought blacks inferior biologically, but did not "hate" them. once he came to actually know african americans, he realized he was wrong). and his plans for resettlement after the war were not "racist" either.
and yes, grant owned several slaves, but his father was an abolitionist and refused to attend his wedding (threatened to disown him) for marrying a women who actually owned the slaves. grant was too poor to own a slave. the slaves (i believe two of them) came with his marriage.
and of course the war was about economics. but so was slavery. slavery WAS economics. the southern states didn't leave the union because of economic oppression. they left, as is stated in their declarations of secession, to guard the institution of slavery, which they knew lincoln would work to further undermine. yes, lincoln, at first, said he would not free one slave if it meant keeping the union together. but right after that he said he would also free all the slaves if he could still keep the union together as well. the emancipation proclamation, which, yes, freed only slaves in the secessionist south, was lincoln's way of saying "unconditional surrender or nothing, slavery is ending".

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digitaldiva — 15 years ago(January 11, 2011 07:49 AM)

Hi nubbytubbbiatchesgalore,
So true and thank you for your post. Someone recently shared the articles of secession from several states. Every one of them brought up slavery which was the engine of the economy of the South.

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Sweet_Canela1 — 15 years ago(January 20, 2011 12:24 PM)

Wow the writer of that article has no sense. I'll be back later with more detailed thoughts.

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digitaldiva — 15 years ago(January 20, 2011 03:19 PM)

Hi Sweet Canela1,
I agree with you. The author of the article in Cracked was quite mistaken and his comments made no sense at all.

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Hancock_the_Superb — 14 years ago(May 31, 2011 05:37 PM)

Grant did not own slaves you twit. His wife's family owned slaves but Grant never owned one himself, and personally disapproved of slavery. His memoirs make his views on race very clear; whatever his other faults, by 19th Century standards he was positively progressive on civil rights.
Lincoln probably was a racist, as virtually all white people of the time were. However, most people would see the fact that he worked for the emancipation of black slaves
in spite of
his racism more important.
And yes, the old "economics" canard. What Southern economic system was the Confederacy trying to protect and spread?
"That's what the elves call Justice of the Unicorn!"

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