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    trekkie313 — 12 years ago(June 18, 2013 05:27 PM)

    I think Vorstedt was lying to piss off Riggs before sending him to his death, Riggs seemed pretty calm knowing he was probably going to die until the "phony revelation".

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      Verdugo85 — 12 years ago(July 10, 2013 09:30 AM)

      Well..it didnt really bother me but the idea of Vorstedt killing Riggs wife was a way to put Riggs dilemma at rest and move on with his life with Murtaugh and his family.
      Gibson's character was changing time after time ever since he was partnered with Murtaugh.

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        Kuato_and_George — 12 years ago(July 12, 2013 07:37 PM)

        I agree, but it didn't rub me the wrong way as much as Spiderman 3. We practically saw the guy kill Pete's Uncle for God's sake. Then they change it in the last movie? Weak.
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          ultimatenexus — 12 years ago(February 07, 2014 01:40 PM)

          When was this stated?! I've seen this movie numerous times (watching it NOW, even) and I seem to have missed that reveal every time. O_O


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            RParmly-3 — 11 years ago(July 28, 2014 04:42 AM)

            After they capture Riggs, they try to drown him by throwing him into the ocean. He and Vorstedt (the South Africans' top enforcer) have a little chat just before that, and that's when Vorstedt tells him.
            Fichtre! Voila qu'on me tue mes morts.

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              ultimatenexus — 11 years ago(July 28, 2014 12:53 PM)

              Having just watched it again I finally heard it. Strange how after all these viewings I never noticed that until someone pointed it out.


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                  jcmgee — 11 years ago(August 15, 2014 08:32 PM)

                  There was a suggestion over on the Lethal Weapon 3 boards some time ago that the "I killed Riggs' wife" twist should have been saved for that movie. It would've made the guy in that movie more menacing and nasty (the racism and killing Rika was plenty enough for the South Africans). I think it would've been a great idea, personally.
                  The only problem with that is that it would become repetitive to have Riggs avenging the death of loved ones in each film. Besides, I think the twist worked fine here and it gave LW 2 that extra bit of drama. Seeing Riggs revert back into crazy mode and avenge the death of his wife and girlfriend was just too good. This is the funniest, yet darkest film of the series in my opinion.

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                    manofsteel4455 — 11 years ago(February 24, 2015 09:57 PM)

                    yea, I don't understand everyone's complaint on this. Then again people complain about everything in movies today.

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                      buddyboy28 — 11 years ago(February 24, 2015 11:48 PM)

                      The only problem with that is that it would become repetitive to have Riggs avenging the death of loved ones in each film
                      They basically did that anyway. In LW3 Travis shoots Lorna and Riggs thinks he's killed her because he has cop killer bullets, and Riggs goes insane and kills him.
                      Lorna survived but they still pulled the same scenario they pulled here.
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                        Lunchbox-3 — 9 years ago(August 25, 2016 12:22 PM)

                        I agree, even as a kid in the '80s I thought that was weak and unnecessary. This movie relies on too much coincidence. First that the guys Riggs & Murtaugh are chasing at the beginning of the movie turn out to be the same guys Leo is on the run from. They go straight from trying to find Leo's would-be assassin back to working on their original case, and they never even have an ah-ha moment "Hey, Leo's guys are the same guys we're after!"
                        Then to also have the guys they're chasing just happen to be the same guys who murdered Riggs' wife. If he had really murdered Mrs. Riggs wouldn't there have been evidence? He says he ran her off the road. Wouldn't the cars have traded some paint, etc.? It might have made sense if in the first movie, or at least in Riggs' speech to Trish earlier in LW2, he mentioned that it was a hit-and-run but they never caught the guy. We always thought it was an accident and suddenly it's a murder. They might as well have tacked on that Volstedt was also Riggs' long-lost brother. Y'know like with Bond
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                        Spectre.
                        Then instead of killing Riggs, they put him in a straight jacket and throw him in the water. That would probably mean death for anyone else, but it just happens to be the one death-trap we already know Riggs can escape from! What a sheer bit of Hollywood luck that Riggs knew exactly how to escape from that, and only that, one specific trap. Do the writers think the audience is that dumb that they have to show us Riggs escaping from a straight jacket earlier in the movie? They could have had him dislocate his shoulder earlier, say in the car chase at the beginning and slam his shoulder against the wall to correct it. Later on he could escape from the straight jacket and we wouldn't know how he did it until he corrected it again with the ol' shoulder-against-the-wall. At least then there would be some suspense that Riggs might actually be in danger. As it stands, we know prior to him going in the water that he's going to be okay.
                        There was some good character moments and good action in this movie, but the contrivance level is high.

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                          simian_ninja — 9 years ago(September 22, 2016 06:01 AM)

                          To be honest, I never expected it and for that reason alone I really liked it.
                          Death is the standard breach for a complex prize.

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                            donstuie — 9 years ago(December 10, 2016 11:42 PM)

                            It definitely had a "Jack Napier killed Bruce Wayne's parents" vibe to it.

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