So since Eric fell in love with her voice
-
Stratego — 11 years ago(November 26, 2014 03:48 PM)
No, her voice was simply a trade when it came to Ariel becoming a human, it was not an "ingredient" of the spell. And no, there's no reason to believe her voice played a role in Ursula becoming Vanessa, it all just happened at the same time. What the breaking of the nautilus DID do, was take away "Vanessa's" voice. So there's your proof that it's unrelated.
Ofcourse, it doesn't matter what I or anybody else says, because you'll always choose to believe your own far-fetched, nonsense theories. -
otness_e — 11 years ago(November 26, 2014 03:59 PM)
Considering her nautilus clearly glowed just before Ursula became Vanessa, yes, it actually WAS due to Ariel's voice, as that's the only thing in there that could cause it to glow.
And no, the only purpose of using Ariel's voice is to draw Eric to Vanessa. Then the spell would come into effect afterwards. In other words, the only "ingredient" Ariel's spell would serve would be as bait, and the spell itself would not have depend on it that much. Had I used a hypnotic spell and used something else as bait to lure them over, then even if the thing that acted as bait was taken away, I'd still have control over that person regardless, my control only being broken either by free will or literally over my dead body. It's the same thing here. -
Stratego — 11 years ago(November 26, 2014 04:33 PM)
Duh! Because the voice of Ariel was activated to become part of Vanessa AND because she put a hypnotic spell on it. But it was NOT part of the spell that gave Ursula the appearance of Vanessa. And it certainly doesn't imply Ariel's voice has any magical qualities of its own.
And no, the only purpose of using Ariel's voice is to draw Eric to Vanessa. Then the spell would come into effect afterwards. In other words, the only "ingredient" Ariel's spell would serve would be as bait, and the spell itself would not have depend on it that much.
It's clear you didn't even TRY to understand what I was saying.
A spell was cast on Ariel's voice to hypnotize Eric, making it an "ingredient". Her voice was NOT used in the spell to make her human. So you can't even compare the two spells. -
otness_e — 11 years ago(November 26, 2014 07:16 PM)
The TV series did have her driving out Evil Manta by summoning a storm with her voice, and that was in his debut episode.
And actually, she just used the voice as bait to lure him to her location, and she just cast the spell when she was in range. And since the voice was part of Vanessa, that means it was an ingredient for her transformation. Since the shell was destroyed, that would have meant Vanessa transformed into Ursula in an instant since with the voice being a key ingredient to her form, it would have dissolved her form immediately, which wasn't the case, so no, it's not an ingredient in either case, just bait in the case of hypnotizing Eric. And yes, I read your statement, I processed it, and it's wrong.
And here's another reason why it was definitely not the case that it was merely an ingredient. In one of the books, Ursula disguised herself as a mermaid named Arsulu as a means to infiltrate Atlantica, and she basically placed everyone under her thumb and mind control, everyone except Ariel, who was the only one suspicious of her. The ability was even similar to what Evil Manta did in his opening episode where he managed to turn friends against one another, meaning she didn't need Ariel's voice at all to hypnotize Eric, besides luring him as bait I mean, certainly she didn't need the voice as a key ingredient. At best, the voice being a key ingredient is only for Vanessa to actually speak with Ariel's voice. -
Stratego — 11 years ago(November 26, 2014 07:33 PM)
At best, the voice being a key ingredient is only for Vanessa to actually speak with Ariel's voice.
Then what the f are you going on about Ariel's voice having magical qualities? In that case, all the voice did was lure Eric because he recognized it, nothing more.
But I'm not going to continue the discussion if you bring up the tv series or the books. -
watcher101 — 10 years ago(September 10, 2015 06:09 PM)
Her voice drew her to him. He was initially in love with the girl who saved his life, kind of like a life-saving hero worship love, but over the 3 days, where she had NO voice, he came to love HER. FInding out that she was the one who saved his life was just a bonus.
-
Durham_christine — 9 years ago(April 04, 2016 11:26 PM)
Problem is, that being a prince, Eric had a WIDE array of women to chose from. If one had a minor defect, he could reject them as he knew he had lots of hot women in the wings waiting.
He probably saw the voice as something no other girl had. When he met Ariel, he obviously thought she was pretty, but didn't posess that quality he wanted. He probably saw her as being mute as another defect that could be problematic, if only in a small way. In other words another defect that other women that wanted to marry him possessed. -
TaraDeS — 3 years ago(April 06, 2022 12:36 PM)
Do you know, that you have a nice voice, Dellllleted?
Try it one or two octaves deeper, please.
That's your
born
level.
Would be easier for you also and sounds better.
Here a sample…please concentrate on the deeper
siren's
voices.
They are high-pitched mostly but not all.
Song Of The Sirens