Anyone else think this is better than The Lion King?
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — The Little Mermaid
mttdrn83 — 9 years ago(April 09, 2016 06:55 PM)
I personally prefer this and Beauty and the Beast way over The Lion King, even though I'm constantly hearing how TLK is the greatest Disney film ever. I was 11 when TLK came out and remember seeing it in the theater. However, aside from a really cool villain and villain song, I always found TLK to be just a bit overrated. Even though I love Frozen, I can understand the backlash it's received since I've felt the same way about The Lion King for the last 20 years. To me the music and characters in TLM are just way more enjoyable and it didn't need to resort to flatulence humor and stupid pop culture references to be entertaining (something TLK helped pioneer unfortunately).
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littlemermaid22 — 9 years ago(April 09, 2016 07:26 PM)
I totally agree with everything you wrote! I think The Lion King is highly overrated. I couldn't stand the flatulence humor in that film. I think you're right that The Lion King had influence on flatulence humor in animated films. Most of the characters in The Lion King annoy me to be quite honest. I thought cub Simba was a brat. I also thought Timon & Pumba were obnoxious. The only songs I like in the film are Circle of Life & Be Prepared. I feel because of The Lion King other Disney films such as Sleeping Beauty & Lady & the Tramp don't get a lot of attention. The Little Mermaid & Beauty & the Beast have always been my top 2 Disney films.
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TutuAnimationPrincess — 9 years ago(April 09, 2016 09:52 PM)
Think? No. I KNOW The Little Mermaid is better than the Lion King in virtually every capacity. A far more dynamic and interesting lead character, a more practical and threatening villain, better songs that fit the context of the film, writing with layers upon layers of intrigue, side characters that aren't annoying and serve the plotI could go on and on! The Little Mermaid remains the best of the Disney Renaissance and should easily be among the top five best Disney films ever!
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otness_e — 9 years ago(April 10, 2016 04:55 AM)
Come to think of it, I agree with you there completely regarding The Little Mermaid and The Lion King. That being said, at least Lion King's main villain was better than Gaston. Even you have to admit that.
Though on the other hand, unlike Triton and his hatred of humans (yes, they eat fish, but on the other hand they aren't an actual threat unless they can actually come underwater), Mufasa's wariness of the hyenas WAS proven to be completely justified. -
otness_e — 9 years ago(April 10, 2016 12:26 PM)
I'm not telling them what to think, it's pretty obvious that Scar was better written than Gaston. Look, Scar managed to bribe those Hyenas into having a food surplus if they aided in disposing Mufasa, and the Hyenas had more than enough reason to hate Mufasa and Simba anyways. Gaston, on the other hand, basically divulged enough details of his blackmail plan in public to all but ensure that he was exposed as a dirtbag to everyone, yet they cheered him on without any indication of sugarcoating to make it more palatable for the masses, either by moral imperatives or by pragmatics such as bribery or threats, despite the fact that this is actually a good way to have people turn against you. By definition, that's better written.
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otness_e — 9 years ago(April 10, 2016 12:22 PM)
TLM, certainly, was far better than Frozen or TLK. Can't say the same regarding BatB, though, especially given how they characterized the villains and their near successes (sorry, but when the main villain openly and loudly divulges, or sings, rather, enough key details about his evil plan to blackmail a woman by locking up her father to force her hand in marriage in front of a crowded tavern, to not only have everyone and their neighbor deduce EXACTLY what he was planning to do, but also expose him as such an indecent human being in the most blunt manner possible, and they cheer him on, that just breaks even suspension of disbelief, as even that has its limits, and Gaston crossed them in that very stupid, badly-written reprise
. At least Scar bribed the Hyenas into following his plan to kill Simba and Mufasa in order to ensure they followed him, and at least Hans was smart enough to actually HIDE his true nature from Anna until the odds were stacked in his favor and even THEN try to dispose of her to ensure she couldn't stop him. And also how Belle handled Gaston's blackmail and nearly got Beast killed was beyond stupid as well, as even a kindergartner would realize that was just a bad plan with no chance at success. At least with Ariel, Anna, and Simba, their not knowing about the villains plans and their nearly causing the villains to win actually made sense, since for Ariel, Ursula had tricked her into thinking she had reformed; Anna had no reason to suspect Hans was up to something, and Scar was Simba's uncle, whom he had thought was a nice guy, even if a bit weird and would not have known about his murderous intentions against the cub. Belle knew exactly what kind of guy Gaston was like, especially after deducing his attempt at blackmail, and would most certainly have known how the villagers were like regarding anything different just from personal experience, and yet she ended up exposing Beast to them and then nearly getting him and his servants downright murdered.).
And before anyone complains about my ripping into BatB in this post, Stratego mentioned BatB in the post I'm responding to, so I don't see any reason why I shouldn't mention it. -
Stratego — 9 years ago(April 10, 2016 12:43 PM)
And before anyone complains about my ripping into BatB in this post, Stratego mentioned BatB in the post I'm responding to, so I don't see any reason why I shouldn't mention it.
I mentioned BatB, you moron, because the OP did. But this is not a thread about BatB, so there's no good reason to go on a rant about how bad of a villain Gaston is. That has nothing to do whatsoever with the subject. You're absolutely pathetic. -
ZakkWyldeMyLittlePony — 9 years ago(April 14, 2016 06:40 PM)
While I like The Lion King, I definitely like Beauty and the Beast and The Little Mermaid better. EDIT: Also, I know I'm the minority, but I also like Tarzan, Rescuers Down Under, Pocahontas, and Mulan better than The Lion King too for that matter.
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