Small things about this movie that bother me
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DjokerFan — 10 years ago(October 04, 2015 07:32 AM)
There could have been an even more useless player on the field with a solid bat to take the role of DH.
Watching the clips of Dorn trying to field grounders IDK how he was ever a major league ballplayer, regardless of how he swung the bat. -
johndonovan-00688 — 9 years ago(August 05, 2016 09:08 PM)
What bother's me is that Harris looks to be about 50 years old. He's not going to be pitching and winning 9 inning games
In 1988 Charlie Hough was 40 years old and pitched 252 innings including 10 complete games. He also pitched over 200 innings as a 45 year old in 1993. Phil Niekro pitched 210 innings with 5 complete games in 1986 at age 47. And it wasn't just knuckleballers either. Nolan Ryan was 41 in 1988 and pitched 220 innings. Tommy John pitched 3 complete games in 1987 at age 45. Pitchers today are incredibly soft compared to the pitchers from the era this movie was released. -
bote — 9 years ago(October 27, 2016 11:51 AM)
Speaking of Charlie Hough, he started the first ever game for the 1993 Florida Marlins, who were probably pretty close to the talent level depicted as this Indians team in Major League. A collection of has-beens and never-wases.
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puddleglum5999 — 10 years ago(July 07, 2015 09:27 AM)
As far as position players showing up at the same time as pitchers and catchersI don't remember how it was in 1989, but now I think teams give their position players the option of coming at the same time as pitchers and catchers.
I know with my favorite team (Braves), it's fairly commonplace for most of the players to arrive "early." In fact, I seem to recall one year when a couple of backup players took some (minor) heat for waiting until the day position players were "supposed to" arrive, simply because the rest of the team was already there.
As for the rest of your objections, I'm right there with you, but I guess it's a sign of how the team was supposed to be set up for failure.
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NxNWRocks — 9 years ago(April 29, 2016 06:33 PM)
- Good point but as others have said, you don't know what the rest of the roster was like. These guys were bottom of the barrel, handpicked to finish last, so I doubt there was any gold glovers on the roster.
- Vaughn is not the closer. The manager tells him "even though it's your turn in the rotation." Also, Taylor expresses surprise when the manager signals for Vaughn - something he wouldn't do if Vaughn was the closer. I'm surprised you missed this since you've obviously paid attention to other aspects of the movie.
- This is valid in the movie's universe because Phelps picked what she thought was a bunch of deadbeats who would guarantee last place. She wants to move to Miami now, not in a few years.
"Worthington, we're being attacked by giant bats!"
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Rockhound6165 — 9 years ago(May 09, 2016 08:48 PM)
- Ricky and Willie both go straight to the Major Leagues, and this is never even mentioned in the movie? Having 2 guys on your roster that jumped straight to the Majors is a pretty big deal!
- Yeah, this one just doesn't happen no drafting, no minor leagues just straight to the majors. Not going to happen.
We have to remember that this is just a movie so they took a lot of creative license here. The real question is how did an established franchise come to resemble an expansion team.
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M_Exchange — 9 years ago(October 23, 2016 09:19 PM)
- Position players show up at Spring Training the same time as pitchers and catchers.
I called into a radio show once years ago and said something about Matt Kemp (outfielder at the time with the Dodgers). I said that I usually got to spring training when the pitchers and catchers reported, and I always saw him at that time and spoke with him. Neither talk host called me on it because I think that they knew that he arrived during the first day with the pitchers and catchers, but as soon as I hung up the phone I almost felt like I needed to clarify to the audience that I knew that he wasn't a pitcher or a catcher.
I know that
most
players don't arrive that early, but
- Position players show up at Spring Training the same time as pitchers and catchers.
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Rockhound6165 — 9 years ago(October 26, 2016 07:25 PM)
1: Some position players show up early. Usually it's players rehabbing injuries or who want to work on a few things. not that unusual.
2: There are players like this. In 1964, Dick Allen of the Phillies(
that
infamous Phillies team), hit .318 with 29 homers and 91 R'sBI but had 41 errors at 3rd base so it's not unprecedented.
3: As was said, Vaughn was a starter. He was put into the bullpen for the 1 game playoff. Again, this isn't unusual. If you remember in 2001, both Curt Shilling and Randy Johnson pitched game 7 of the World Series(Johnson got the win in relief) even though Johnson had just pitched in game 6.
4: Jim Abbott(a 1 handed pitcher), Bob Feller, Catfish Hunter, Harmon Killibrew, Al Kaline, Sandy Kofax, Mell Ott, George Sisler, Dave Winfield(the latter 8 are hall of famers) all went directly to the majors. There are over 100 players who went right to the majors, some from high school. True it doesn't happen often but it does happen. One you probably heard of playing recently is Xavier Nady.
5: You're right but don't say never. The Red Sox play every year at 11am on Patriots Day because of the Boston Marathon.
So, my friend, never say never.