Gil's abortion comment rubbed me the wrong way
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livid_86 — 15 years ago(October 28, 2010 10:47 AM)
"I don't know why Karen even bothered to ask Gil when she had obviously made up her mind already she was going to have it."
I wondered the same thing. It's like she was trying to start an argument or something. She had her mind set on having the kid, and it's obviously her decision.
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BlackHayate — 15 years ago(January 06, 2011 05:19 PM)
So what would you rather they have done, smack the little thing around & call her a piece of sh!t?
HURHUR THEY LOVE THEIR BABY THEY DIDN'T WANT AT FIRST. DUH-THAT'S PARENTHOOD FOR YA!
You absolute moron.
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Kuato_and_George — 14 years ago(August 19, 2011 10:36 AM)
I don't know why Karen even bothered to ask Gil when she had obviously made up her mind already she was going to have it.
This is actually a really valid point. I guess you could say I was annoyed with bother characters. They're a married couple. I don't see how that decisions shouldn't be up to both of them, but both already had their minds made up.
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rixter — 15 years ago(March 08, 2011 09:30 AM)
I think Gill was being a total weasel in his response and she knew it.
Gil: Thats a decision every woman
has to make on her own.
Karen: Are you running for Congress? Dont give me that. l want your opinion about what we should do. Lets pretend its your decision, okay? Pretend youre a caveman or your father. What do you want me to do?
Gil:l wantl want whatever you want.
Karen: l wanna have the baby.
Gil:Well, great! Lets have it then. Lets see how l can screw the fourth one up.
Lets have five. Lets have six! Lets have a dozen and pretend theyre doughnuts.
lm really happy about the way things are turning out, arent you?
You see, he really wanted her to have an abortion but didn't have the balls to say so. This way he could say it was her choice and he didn't have a say. -
Kuato_and_George — 14 years ago(August 19, 2011 10:28 AM)
You see, he really wanted her to have an abortion but didn't have the balls to say so. This way he could say it was her choice and he didn't have a say.
Completely agreed. He didn't want anything to do with making the call and that bothered me. Be a man. She was asking for your opinion, give it. He didn't give one either way, and pulled this faux "it's your choice" argument.
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MuchToBeGratefulFor — 14 years ago(August 19, 2011 02:41 PM)
But I think the dilemma he faced was, what if he did say he wanted her to have an abortion? What if she did it based on him saying he wanted her to. . .and then regretted the decision, and then resented him for it?
Versus if he says (as he did), I want what you want, and if she were to decide on her own that she wanted an abortion. If she later regretted it, at least she wouldn't resent him for telling her to get it.
And since she later finally admits she wants to have the baby, I'm sure he's glad he gave a waffling answer. He'd really be in the doghouse to say he wants her to get an abortion, then have it turn out she wants to keep the baby. The only way a man would be safe in this situation is if the woman wanted the abortion in the first place, hence him giving the answer, "I want what you want."
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Kuato_and_George — 14 years ago(August 20, 2011 01:04 PM)
I don't fail to understand his potential dilemma. Life is a series of dilemmas. Man up and make a decision. Especially when your wife asks you to. So many women don't even give a guy the right to have a say, but a wife is different. So when she asks your opinion, you should be a good husband and give it.
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nutsberryfarm — 12 years ago(November 06, 2013 05:00 PM)
i like her congressman comment.
. he should have just said (if he could) 'yes, we can.' like obama.
also, his comment about how he has to hook customers up with hookers to get the job done was a real wtf? too.
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HinaElena — 14 years ago(October 14, 2011 05:03 AM)
From the very beginning, it's made clear that the one thing Gil wants is to be the opposite of his father. Karen asks him his opinion, and to answer the way his father would (ie without considering her feelings). To do so would go against everything Gil stands for, so he simply says it's her choice and walks off. I don't think it has anything to do with the director's personal stance on the issue, but rather the character's own issues.
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