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    hereminton — 19 years ago(August 05, 2006 12:13 PM)

    Radiant Rose, I think you were absolutely correct in your posting on what Graham does for money (see mine under "Graham's Job?"). But about what you wrote on here "the film has naked women but their male stars are allowed to cover up". I have no problem with nudity of either sex in a movie (especially women, as I am a male), but I'm not sure if allowed is the right word to use here, because I myself have no problem being nude in public, as was proven by how much I liked going to nude Haulover Beach in Miami this May, and my desire to return there soon regularly. And if I was an actor I would have no problem at all doing full nude scenes, or even being a porn actor (and I really don't think most men, actors or otherwise, have problems with this). And you said Andie McDowell was good in this film, but you hated to say that. I fully agree with you that Laura San Giamco is alot prettier than her, and have felt this way since first seeing this movie, but I do think Andie McDowell is a very good actress. And she is from Gaffney, SC, which is just about 15 miles west of my hometown, and where my family and I often went evenings from the late 1970s until the mid 1990s to eat (at the Quincy's Steakhouse there), and where I also saw my first movie in a theater (Grizzly Adams in November, 1974, when 6 and in 1st grade). And there is a big, major street in Gaffney named after her, called Andie McDowell Way, and they seem very pleased she is from there, as I am that she is from South Carolina like me. There was also a movie filmed there , The Abyss, which came out in August, 1989 at the same time this movie did and I also liked alot, and I have thought of the possibility of her having a small role in it, which would have given her the opportunity for a homecoming (she was probably filming this movie at the same time, but Baton Rouge is not too far from Gaffney, and she possibly could have gotten away for a few days).
    "I happen to be a vegetarian". Lex, from Jurrasic Park

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      Radiant_Rose — 19 years ago(August 10, 2006 06:27 AM)

      Yes, some people enjoy nudity and others do not. In the end, I think actors/actresses should have the personal choice whether to do full frontal nudity. A lot of Oscar-winning actresses have done full frontal or topless films and that is their choice. Hilary Swank has 2 Oscars, although to be fair, there was a very good reason for us to see her naked in "Boys Don't Cry".
      However, I suspect that directors as a whole are more understanding towards male stars who refuse to reveal all than to female stars with the same reticence. Perhaps I am being unfair.
      My sixth birthday was in 1974, so I am presumably a similar age to you, hereminton.

      Don't dream it, be it.

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        cascade_ice — 22 years ago(January 07, 2004 10:00 PM)

        Agreed. It's not fluff, as most films these days are.

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          orcaroline — 20 years ago(March 17, 2006 08:42 PM)

          Yes, the pace is absolutely perfect.
          -Caroline
          "Let the lovefeast begin."
          "People are dying. The dialogue has to be up to it."

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            piratesandcigarettes — 20 years ago(March 31, 2006 05:24 PM)

            the film was great but i felt cheated in the end.I dont know, maybe i have to watch it again.i wanted more.did anyone else feel this way?

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              Radiant_Rose — 20 years ago(April 04, 2006 06:52 AM)

              The first time, I was disappointed by the film and thought it deserved 3 points out of 5. Now I think it deserves all 5, and could only have been improved had we found out that Ann's new job involved recycling garbage/rubbish.

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                orcaroline — 19 years ago(April 24, 2006 10:48 PM)

                Why's that? I didn't get the idea that she was some big environmentalist..and she only talks about trash for about a minute.
                -Caroline
                "Let the lovefeast begin."
                "People are dying. The dialogue has to be up to it."

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                  Radiant_Rose — 19 years ago(May 10, 2006 05:19 AM)

                  Point taken, Caroline. It didn't have to be about trash/rubbish, but she was getting worried about big stuff and it would have been nice if her job had been something useful like recycling. Or helping starving children or the families of air crash victims, but those two might have got her too emotional.
                  It would have been nice to see that the change in her lead to her doing something about issues that she claimed to worry about.

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                    orcaroline — 19 years ago(May 15, 2006 10:50 PM)

                    I think she just thought about those things to distract her from worrying about her own life. Her life starts going well, she no longer thinks about them.
                    It would've been nice but unrealistic. So many people worry about those kinds of things at one point or another, but very few actually do something about it, especially if it's something by which they haven't been directly affected.
                    -Caroline
                    "Let the lovefeast begin."
                    "People are dying. The dialogue has to be up to it."

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                      Radiant_Rose — 19 years ago(May 17, 2006 09:07 AM)

                      Oh well. Maybe now she's earning, she can send some money towards good causes and then feel better about things.

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                        orcaroline — 19 years ago(May 21, 2006 04:36 PM)

                        Well, it's not like her not helping other people would invalidate the progress she's made.
                        -Caroline
                        "Let the lovefeast begin."
                        "People are dying. The dialogue has to be up to it."

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                          Radiant_Rose — 19 years ago(June 08, 2006 05:28 AM)

                          Hi, Caroline/Orcaroline!
                          Her not helping other people would not invalidate the progress she had made, but I would like to think that part of her concern about garbage (or landfill rubbish as my local council calls it) was genuine.
                          When I have been depressed, I have tended to get much more upset than usual about sad items on the news. The fact that they affect me less when I am non-depressed does not mean that the news items are not sad for those directly concerned.

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                            hereminton — 19 years ago(August 05, 2006 11:26 AM)

                            I fully agree with you. I remember the attention this movie got in the summer of 1989 at Caanes (or Sundance), and that it was not mainstream, but very well recieved, and this was when I first heard the name Stephen Soderburgh (now very famous). I first rented it out and saw it on our home VCR in early 1990, then taped it off TV in 1991, and I often watched it until the mid 1990s. I'm glad to see it is out on DVD now, as I hope to see it soon on that, but it got on my 100 favorite movies of all time list. It may be the most unusual movie on this list, and is certainly one of the most unique I have ever seen. But its basic premises is exactly as you said, and the movie really takes off once he arrives in Baton Rouge and it begins centering on the four main characters. The direction and script is indeed flawless from that point on, and I thought it was very good and added to the movie that these four characters are really the only ones in it for over 95% of the movie (can't say that about many movies). It was also great the way the videotaping was inserted into the real movie, and I can see why this movie launched Stephen Soderburgh's career. The performances by the four stars are also very good and convincing, and it does make great use of the city of Baton Rouge as its lone location. It is a must see, and I'd urge anyone who watches movies but has not seen it to do so.
                            "I happen to be a vegetarian". Lex, from Jurrasic Park

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                              jefgg — 13 years ago(December 22, 2012 11:24 AM)

                              The movie made me think of a close friend who I think is impotent. Two of his ex-girlfriends swear that he is. He sure loves to talk about sex. He talks about foreplay like it is intercourse. He brags about playing footsie with women. I get tired of hearing it so I tell him to shut up. I try to explain that he has done nothing to brag about. He got defensive once and whined "you don't understand positioning". I told him he doesn't understand positions.

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