Stereotype English?
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always300 — 19 years ago(August 24, 2006 08:10 PM)
Oh my goodness. It's on TV right nowas a kid, I loved these movies. But it's been like a decade since I saw it lastwow. Seriously, her accent is tragic beyond repair. I like Nancy Travis but this is not good. Why didn't they fix it? Voice Coaches, anyone? Oh mythe horror. It's just terrible. Time to change the channel.
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charrr — 19 years ago(January 03, 2007 04:43 PM)
Im English Btw.
I hate it when movies stereotype other countries. I hate it when other countries think that everyone in England has an accent which is either posh and upper class or cockney. That ticks me off. And Ive noticed recently that English people are always the baddies, or are really snobby. -
cage2377 — 19 years ago(February 28, 2007 12:17 PM)
the northern accents are really hard to understand tho, like newcastle liverpool etc, it just dosent sound as good on camera.
oh and not all americans are fat and dumb .just a high percentage!
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SueBee55 — 15 years ago(July 15, 2010 10:49 AM)
I thought her accent was better in the first film (3 men and baby)
- except for the bit where she says 'I can't believe how big she's gotten'. An Englishwoman would never say 'gotten'.
You're not too smart are you? I like that in a man!
- except for the bit where she says 'I can't believe how big she's gotten'. An Englishwoman would never say 'gotten'.
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montchoisy2002 — 19 years ago(March 03, 2007 04:01 PM)
The English think THEY'VE got it bad with American stereotyping you want to try being from Ireland and then you'll know what it's like to be stereotyped. Ireland is a TEENY country and yet 90% of Americans think they've spawned from it. There's nothing more frustrating than hearing this:
"Oh my gawd, you're from Ireland??" (really spoken with TWO question marks.
"Yeah."
"My mother's father's mother's great GRAND FATHER was from, like, County Wicklow or something." I get really frustrated by the whole I'm one millionth Irish.
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random_star_girl — 18 years ago(May 31, 2007 12:01 PM)
I hate it when American films refer to Britain as 'England'. Example: 'The Queen of England'.
What about Scotland, Ireland and Wales??
To the OP- I suppose yeah it is an outdated stereotype, and it does get annoying because even though I'm Scottish I know most English people are NOT like that and they don't all live in mansions!! lol.
I think it can be hard for some Americans who've never been out of their country so they don't know what the UK is really like. -
smck_82uk — 18 years ago(June 13, 2007 01:10 PM)
I hate it when American films refer to Britain as 'England'. Example: 'The Queen of England'.
What about Scotland, Ireland and Wales??
That REALLY bugs me too
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liviamaxima — 18 years ago(September 10, 2007 02:09 AM)
Been reading this thread, and I think I have a few answers:
- In response to the last: Scotland, Ireland, and Wales in the American mind have always been distinct from England as concepts:different accents, different geography, variations in histories and in some instances customs. England is the territory that rules them all, thus unfortunately to England goes the name. (Furthermore, consider the fact that in the past British rule often meant her subjects encouragement to consider themselves ENGLISHMEN rather than Scots, Welsh, et. al.) As far as I know, the US is not the only country that still does this, there are others. (Many Latin American maps mark you guys as Angleterra, not "Los Reinos Unidos.")
- Irish stereotyping, hmm? -Unsurprising, I've seen it happen. However, bear in mind that it actually IS one of two big sources of ancestry (roughly 1 in 4 can trace their ancestry to said teeny country) and this actually does continue to this day. (My apologies, however, for fellow countrymen who make asses of themselves on the streets of Dublin or Galway over it. There never is a football player to tackle 'em when you need one.)
- Cruel, uppercrust British morons as a stereotype? No, actually, that is only half correct; we definitely absolutely know there are other accents extant and actually we love them to bits!
Bridget Jones, for example, was a MONSTER hit here (both the movies and the book) as was Bend it like Beckham, as was The Full Monty, as is anything Harry Potter, and hell, even Calendar Girls got a piece of the pie. The difference actually is the fact that the average American relates MUCH better to a character like the girl in Beckham than any character like Edward in Three Men and A Little Lady. Hence, the average bloke archetype doesn't get lampooned as much (or punched, in Edward's case.) He is securely loved and embraced (wellies and all
The other guy unfortunately will not be so lucky.
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Willowi — 18 years ago(December 31, 2007 08:34 AM)
I think the problem is that any British person in an American film or Tv is so old fashioned. The only exception I can think of is Daphne in Frasier, and even with her the accents are all messed up and her family is just rediculous. I mean take the butler of the Fresh Prince. Absolutely nobody is anything like that in England. And when his son turned up! It is so annoying to have your nation portrayed so completely unlike itself constantly.
Now of course we have American Stereotypes, and people make jokes about Americans based on them, but the difference is the majority of the tv shows and films we watch are American, so we have exactly the same picture of Americans on our tvs as Americans get on theres. Americans don't watch British tv which is where they have this idea we all act like the older rural generation. Try watching Skins or Hollyoaks :P.
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thebigbeercan — 18 years ago(January 03, 2008 03:53 AM)
this is the RADIO TIMES review of the film.
"In this decidedly lacklustre comedy sequel to Three Men and a Baby, Tom Selleck, Steve Guttenberg and Ted Danson travel to London to try to prevent their adopted daughter from being sent to - horrors! - boarding school.
As an insult to Britain it would have been more effective if it had been better made, but it wasn't.
In addition, casting British actors to perform as if they are the befuddled eccentrics of an imaginary England of the 1950s seems almost contemptuous.
Count it as another example of Hollywood's quaint and unrealistic view of the British way of life." -
prodijay — 18 years ago(February 19, 2008 03:04 AM)
The Scottish thing always makes me laugh! Im an English guy living in Scotland and every single Scot will tell you with great joy that they are not part of Britain!
In fact the UK is exactly that, the United Kingdom! Comprised of four countries. If you dont like it, 100s of years say tough!
I do notice that hypocrisy that Scots in particular dont like it in some cases when they are not referred to as British! Particular when referred to from overseas.
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shelkara — 17 years ago(July 13, 2008 11:41 AM)
I agree with you, shazeroon. I'm not British, but I lived in England for about 5 years, and continue to visit every year. I actually really like this movie (for what it is), and think that the British scenes were all in fun. It was done in a very lighthearted, nonmalicious way, and as someone who is very familiar with British customs and traditions, I couldn't help but laugh. The humor is all in knowing that this is not what the Brits are really like.