My biggest problem with this that nobody ever notices…
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buddyboy28 — 10 years ago(October 01, 2015 05:17 AM)
this one is a true plot hole
It isn't. A true plot hole can't be defended no matter how you look at it. In these movies, the time traveller retain their memories. If you look at the trilogy the writing doesn't contradict itself with that scenario. 1985 Doc retains his past life memories from the time he left 1955, so didn't know he was going to be shot, wasn't expecting Marty, didn't know about Clara, and still thought of Shonash Ravine as Clayton Ravine.
it is funny that Doc seems to not visibly age from 1955-1985!
He went from having blonde hair to pure white hair, and loads of wrinkles on his neck and around his eyes.
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LeSamourai86 — 9 years ago(May 22, 2016 09:53 PM)
But what about ripple effect? If I hit the 1955 doc and scarred him permanently, that scar would appear on the 1885 doc. Thus, if 1955 doc knows Marty will be arriving in 1885, and that he himself will be shot by Buford, then 1885 doc should now know.
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doubl3 — 10 years ago(October 24, 2015 04:20 PM)
If you think it through everything makes sense. You have to think about those time travel incidents as still in a straight line time-wise, so doc in 1955 does NOT know what happened in 1885 based on memory because he was NOT in 1885 in his past, he was there in his future.
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Jack_rabbit — 10 years ago(October 21, 2015 02:51 PM)
Ahh, but Doc was "supposed" to have been murdered by Libyans, and left the time stream at the end of the first film. Clara was "supposed" to have died in the ravine. Depending on how long it took him to build his time travelling train, he and Clara could exist "out of time" and have no effect on its progression.
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darkpassenger888 — 10 years ago(October 22, 2015 07:54 PM)
The movie is full of flaws. With both Doc and Marty in 1885, the only reason that Doc is in the right place to save Clara is because Marty is with him. When it is only the Doc in 1885, how the bloody hell is it that he prevented Clara's death?
Yes, there should be very noticeable differences in 1985, but I love the movie enough that I don't give a damn.
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buddyboy28 — 10 years ago(October 22, 2015 09:59 PM)
In the first altered timeline where Doc is on his own, the Mayor asks Doc to meet her at the station to pick her up. He does and they fall in love.
In the second altered timeline where Marty goes back, Doc doesn't pick her up because he's figuring out a way to get home (you can see her waiting for him behind them as they look at the map) and her horses get spooked but Doc's there to save her and meets her this way.
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doubl3 — 10 years ago(October 24, 2015 04:16 PM)
The part that I thought was kind of lame is them going to so much trouble to get the train idea to work when they could have simply written a new letter and have a second Marty arrive the next day and show up in a place les likely to be an issue leading to the car getting damaged. Or if they thought it would be too weird having multiple Martys there, Doc could have sent someone else back that time. Instead, they risk dying by staying there for days and barely have their solution work out.
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phe_de — 10 years ago(October 25, 2015 04:11 PM)
My theory: Doc stays with Clara in 1885 after rescuing her on the hoverboard, and then they talk about time traveling, and how Doc thought the time machine brought lots of disaster; then Clara says that without the time machine they would never have met, and a time machine is just a tool, and it's up to those who use it whether it's evil or not.
So Doc and Clara decide to:- Found a family
- Rebuild the time machine as a steam engine, and without using parts that don't get invented before 1947
- Travel through time as tourists, following the writings of Jules Verne, while at the same time not impacting their environment too much
- Get Einstein and say hello to Marty and Jennifer
Another theory (but that's not canonical): To fund all this, Doc and Clara decide to write best-selling science-fiction novels under various pseudonyms; one of them being H.G.Wells.
Everything is possible, and nothing is sure.