The BEST of the Die Hard series…
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loyalt — 9 years ago(July 11, 2016 10:34 PM)
It feels way more original and classy by basically being a half-baked remake of the first film with a worse script, worse acting, worse action, and a whole slew of unmemorable villains? Not to mention the one-liners were severely lacking. "What is this, a tag team?"
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Hendry_William_French — 9 years ago(July 12, 2016 01:10 AM)
worse action
Haha, no way. The action in this movie is among the best in the genre. 747s, ejector seats, snowmobiles. That's original as sh!t.
and a whole slew of unmemorable villains?
DH2's villains are bad ass. If you don't find Bill Sadler's Colonel Stuart memorable then that's too bad. Him along with Amos' Major Grant and Nero's Esperanza are some of the coolest villains you'll find. Those mercs looked like people you do not want to f-k with.
Not to mention the one-liners were severely lacking
The 'lead in your ass' line alone was worth the price of admission.
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the_la_baker — 9 years ago(July 16, 2016 01:38 PM)
Colonel Stuart is the best DH villain. They were doing well until DH3 when they made the villain less of a villain. Hans was going to blow the roof and kill everyone. Stuart crashed a plane with children on it. Simon didn't really place a bomb in the school at least DH4 had a villain willing to kill millions of people. Simon was a pussy.
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rascal67 — 9 years ago(August 27, 2016 09:54 PM)
DH2's villains are bad ass. If you don't find Bill Sadler's Colonel Stuart memorable then that's too bad. Him along with Amos' Major Grant and Nero's Esperanza are some of the coolest villains you'll find. Those mercs looked like people you do not want to f-k with.
I agree. Sadler was one mean mother and he made Rickman's villain look like a ponce in comparison. I like both the first two Die Hard's, but have a preference for this second.
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Hendry_William_French — 9 years ago(August 28, 2016 02:43 AM)
Yeah, I prefer Colonel Stuart to Hans Gruber. Both are really cool villains, but Stuart just looks way more formidable as an opponent and McLane's fight with him on the wing at the end was a great match up. McLane is basically a warrior, and so is Stuart, so it was nice to have them go toe to toe.
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rascal67 — 9 years ago(August 29, 2016 12:27 AM)
I'm not a fan of Alan Rickman and he over-acted and was self-conscious as the bad guy. He was good in Robin Hood Prince Of Thieves as the villain; but that was funny over-the-top in the sense of a more family orientated movie. I didn't find him as believable as Sadler was in Die Hard 2.
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Hendry_William_French — 9 years ago(August 29, 2016 05:50 AM)
I liked Rickman more in Die Hard than in Robin Hood, but he was good in both nonetheless. He is a little overrated in the original. People think Hans Gruber is the greatest ever action bad guy, I think they like his charisma and the fact he's charming as well as being a bad guy. Stuart in this movie was more physical and you see him in action more, but maybe he's not as charming as Gruber, but I still liked him more.
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rascal67 — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 03:09 PM)
I think that is spot on with what you said about the appeal of Gruber, being charismatic and charming, to go along with his ruthlessness. The charm would have also been Rickman's own personal demeanor. Hans was a genuine sociopath; but so was Col Stuart and he did actually look mean. Rickman appeared to be acting his part though, just like when he was pretending to be one of the party guests that escaped.
Sadler has that strong masculine square jawed look about himself; but it was also like he was more in the moment of his evil character and his psychosis, or whatever it was he had, was layered and bubbling away underneath the surface. I found him more believable.
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RomaVictorrrr — 9 years ago(July 13, 2016 07:39 PM)
Die Hard 3 isn't even a Die Hard movie. Its script was originally meant for a Lethal Weapon sequel.
Then none of the first three are DIE HARD movies, since they were all based on novels, first one being a sequel to a Frank Sinatra detective movie.
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Hendry_William_French — 9 years ago(July 13, 2016 11:04 PM)
Well, that's different because they adapted the novel to fit the Die Hard formula ie a lone warrior up against the odds in a fairly closed off environment.
On the other hand, Die Hard 3 taking the generic buddy cop flick and applying it to Die Hard didn't work, cause you were basically taking a run of the mill 90s action movie set up (hero up against bad guys planting bombs in public places ie Speed etc) and putting it onto a movie which didn't suit that style. Die Hard 3 makes for a solid action movie but it just doesn't look or feel like a Die Hard movie, more like a spin off. It's more similar to Die Hard 4 and 5 than it is to 1 & 2, which have a much more distinctive look & tone.
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ukhoops25 — 9 years ago(September 15, 2016 01:25 AM)
DIe Hard 2 is the best Die Hard for sure. Most rewatchable action movie of all time even ahead of Goldeneye and True Lies barely. Die Hard 1 isn't too far behind followed by DH3. DH4 is still amazing just not as good.
DH2 had everything. Oh my goodness. The Blanks Scene with McClane and Carmine Lorenzo going back n forth. I bout lost it. The helicopter eject scene with the grenades. All the quotes and one liners by everybody. Takin over the airport. Holly in danger with no fuel. Major Grants betrayal. ANd oh yeahh..
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Electrical1 — 9 years ago(September 25, 2016 02:20 AM)
Another vote for Die Hard 2 being the best in the series. The action is spectacular, the setting is great, the cinematography is amazing and there is lot of story and character and yet it runs at a high octane pace. It's extremely well made.
