Does anyone else think Die Hard 2 Is the Worst in the series!
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donttalkaboutfightclub — 13 years ago(April 03, 2013 09:29 AM)
Saw it couple of days ago and it's really bad. They basically did the same thing again. Holly in danger, Christmas again, same journalist, another police chief who doesn't like McClane, black buddy helps McClane, in first Die Hard they launch rockets at the police, McClane is furious, here the terrorists destroy a plane full with people, again McClane furious. I have never seen the 4th one because I refuse to watch a Die Hard movie that is about some cyber beep
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mike-4148 — 12 years ago(April 21, 2013 05:41 AM)
Die Hard 2 lacks the tension of the first and just goes for all-out action and violence. For me, 3 was the best sequel and it depends what mood I'm in as to whether I prefer 2 or 4. Ironically I think 4 could have been better if they'd toned up the violence and 2 if they'd toned it down - they both just lack a certain edge to them but in different ways. Still enjoy them all though.
However, not seen the latest one and by all accounts I don't feel like I'm missing much.
Die Hard - 10/10
Die Hard with a Vengeance - 8/10
Die Hard 2/Die Hard 4 - 6/10 -
gpapa1998-24-961204 — 12 years ago(June 03, 2013 03:37 PM)
I agree. I did not like this one at all. And what I did not like about it is that it was supposed to take place at Dulles airport but the airport used in the movie did not resemble Dulles at all. I am very familiar with Dulles because I have flown out of Dulles countless times, and I can tell that the movie was not filmed at Dulles. That's the main reason why I did not like this movie. Also I did not find the story interesting. The first one is the best by far.
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noxbenton — 12 years ago(June 05, 2013 01:10 PM)
Wow..
1 & 2 are classics, love them both - 3rd one is more modern and the structure differs quite a bit from the usual - it's a very solid movie but doesn't fit the mold what die hard is all about for me - a (hero)cop just happening to be in a place where things go whacko.
Number 4 was OK in today's action movie standards but nothing compared to the first 3, the newest one in the series was utter piece of crap.
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Behelit — 12 years ago(June 30, 2013 05:00 PM)
I agree with you, the first Die Hard was great, apart from a couple far fetched situations, most of the action was believable.
But in this film, EVERY time one of the highly trained men fired at an exposed McClane with their machine guns, they missed Not even a single bullet managed to hit him, while McClane always got them with his handgun. I stopped enjoying the film even before it was halfway through because each time I thought "once again they all missed". Some scenes were really stupid, like when McClane empties an entire blank magazine on Lorenzo and none of the cops react. Or when not only Stuart doesn't see the fuel getting dumped off the plane, but also Esperanza doesn't see anything wrong on his screens (an alarm should trigger, at least a visual alarm)
Also the pace in this movie is wrong. In the first film, the Tower was sealed, and Mclane was the only one inside it, so no one else could do much anyway (they still tried though). Contact with the outside was subtle as McClane was developing an interesting chat with Al (which said a lot about bureaucracy in the police) while looking for a way to get help at the same time. But in this film, there was no reason for all the cops to sit on their asses while McClane did all the work, wanting to do it all by himself, even when he could organize a better plan with the others. And I don't see why no one thought of lighting up the landing sites with fuel like McClane did with in the end, it's not a revolutionary idea Everyone was so passive for no apparent reason. And I hated that we kept switching to the plane all the time while nothing interesting was happening there, it just completely killed the pace.
The tower in Die Hard 1 was great because it was one single closed location, it gave the film so much intensity and made Die Hard unique. But this one was just a common action film, a not so good action film a that and a very pale copy of the first film, trying at times to imitate it but failing miserably. And finally the loss of the offbeat humour really disappointed me. The Lorenzo joke dragged on and on, and it was the only one (oh yeah there were also jokes about bad breath on the plane that were incredibly boring).
I'd give this film a 4, which is half of what I gave the first Die Hard. -
Behelit — 12 years ago(July 01, 2013 07:37 AM)
The airport is a great location, but too much happened around it. I really did not care about the snowmobile chase at the church, nor about the events on Holly's plane, nor did I believe the way Esperanza freed himself on his plane. It was like "how can this tied up man disarm and kill a soldier who's watching him? oh well let's just make it off camera". Just lazy stuff.
It also killed the pace to switch so many times to Holly's plane with the stewardess offering champagne, or jokes about after shave and mouth washit was simply not interesting and had no direct link to the action at the airport. To me that is a different location.
And by the way Airplane!, Airport, The Terminal, Up in the Air happen are entirely in airports. And there are a lot of other films, not entirely in airports, but where airports are very important locations like Only angels have wings, Casablanca, Catch me if you can, Heat -
Behelit — 12 years ago(July 01, 2013 10:38 AM)
Suspension of disbelief is a conscious effort you have to make. It means the film failed to make you believe in it so you go "I have to force myself to stop thinking so I can enjoy it". But doesn't it mean something's wrong? A better theory is Tolkien's "secondary belief", he said the events must be believable within the secondary reality of the fictional world. Which means it has to be believable according to its own standards for you to believe it. It's not the case when none of the machine gun bullets hit McClane or when the general sets himself free without explanation. I still think this film has qualities though, it's fun and it's still a Die Hard film, unlike 4 & 5. But to me the true great films are both by McTiernan: Die Hard 1 & 3 (even thought I had hoped 3 would end on the phone call to Holly).
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Behelit — 12 years ago(July 01, 2013 11:20 AM)
centering the movie solely on aviation whereby you got the wings, the runways, the terminals, the walkways - everything gets involved with the action and that's pretty sweet
you make a very valid point, I shall rase my rating
