going to kill Karen when she went to get the dresses?

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RobofNJ — 2 years ago(May 06, 2023 04:17 AM)

going to kill Karen when she went to get the dresses?
The real-life example is that Jimmy Burke was planning to kill both of them.
The movie is more ambiguous. I don't know for sure, but I do know her paranoia was getting the best of her. As others have said, if Jimmy wanted to kill her, he would have trapped her and not made it that easy to get out.
Being she's Paul Vario's, I don't think it would have been smart to kill her. Kidnap her perhaps.

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The Kraken — 2 years ago(May 06, 2023 04:31 AM)

I've watched that scene so many times and I figured it was supposed to be ambiguous cuz no matter how you analyze it, it's always ambiguous.

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RobofNJ — 2 years ago(May 06, 2023 04:34 AM)

If he really wanted to kill her, he wouldn't have made it that easy to get out. But then again, contrary to what people say about Jimmy and Tommy killing on broad daylight, the context is important. It's 1980, well after the Mafia's heyday. The Mafia's power was crumbling in Brooklyn/New York. Of course Jimmy had to be more stealthy about killing someone.

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preachcaleb — 2 years ago(July 17, 2023 02:48 PM)

I agree. It really is just left unknown.
And I feel it works so much better being ambiguous because it just adds to the growing paranoia around all the characters.
So many stories, so little time.

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The Kraken — 2 years ago(July 17, 2023 05:34 PM)

To some people it doesn't

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preachcaleb — 2 years ago(July 17, 2023 06:29 PM)

I can understand that. It's like the ending to John Carpenter's The Thing. Some people want it answered, but I love not knowing.
So many stories, so little time.

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The Kraken — 2 years ago(July 17, 2023 06:33 PM)

It was obvious that Childs was a Thing at that point cuz he knew what MacGready plan was from the shared knowledge of the two hosts that MacGready told the plan to.

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/.​ — 2 years ago(May 06, 2023 04:50 AM)

Henry owed Jimmy money for the crap firearms, and that Volvo 244 GL was very desirable in the early '80s
My password is password

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RobofNJ — 2 years ago(May 06, 2023 05:12 AM)

You're talking about the scene when he gives Henry some guns and he says, "Stop with those ****ing drugs. They're turning your mind into mush," right?

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MovieManCin2 — 2 years ago(May 06, 2023 05:32 AM)

Yes. He was
definitely
going to have her killed imho. Her intuition, or
"paranoia"
if you wish, saved her life.
MAGA! FAFO! Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder.

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RobofNJ — 2 years ago(May 06, 2023 05:52 AM)

Jackass.

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MovieManCin2 — 2 years ago(May 06, 2023 05:55 AM)

You mad, Karen?
MAGA! FAFO! Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder.

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RobofNJ — 2 years ago(May 06, 2023 06:02 AM)

No it's that I know you. And I should report you, bro.

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MovieManCin2 — 2 years ago(May 06, 2023 06:03 AM)

Knock yourself out, Karen.
MAGA! FAFO! Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder.

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WarrenPeace — 9 months ago(June 08, 2025 08:17 AM)

Hard to say but I lean more towards a yes.
Send her back there to be whacked with no risk of street witnesses and if he had dresses for her he would have had them with him.
"Please vote to preserve the unique character of Warren…" - Robert Duvall

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Chicxulub — 9 months ago(June 10, 2025 01:31 AM)

Personally, I don't think it's meant to be ambiguous.
Jimmy had so many of his associates killed that they made a montage out of it.
Henry and Karen became liabilities after the drug bust
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Given Jimmy's track record, it seems natural he'd have them bumped off, too.
On a side note, according to the Hill children, the scene in question was based on a real event.