Robert De Nero was (in a sense) the one who killed Joe Pesci in this.
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kmags84 — 9 years ago(May 24, 2016 11:52 PM)
He was actually quite fond of Tommy but these guys are out for Numero Uno, Jimmy was tough but even he was "Whackable", he wasn't Made. He stood by Tommy when the incident went down but Tommy knew the risk, it was his decision.
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computermaster — 9 years ago(May 25, 2016 10:23 AM)
Deniro was never really his friend (just in it for himself), neither did he seem interested in stopping his temper. When he was crying over his death, I reckon it was more to do with the opportunity of him being made going, rather than him being sad for him personally. I'm sure people have said this before
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creatorof2002 — 9 years ago(June 01, 2016 10:21 PM)
I disagree, they had a "bromance" of sorts and I think he really did love Tommy and care about him. I am sure he was looking forward to the added bonus of having a made man for a best friend but I think he really did love the man (NOT IN A SEXUAL WAY THEY WERE BOTH HETERO). For example, no way would he have killed Tommy just to get ahead in some way.
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cabal24 — 9 years ago(June 02, 2016 06:36 AM)
and I think he really did love Tommy and care about him.
This is true only to an extent. Yes, as much as Jimmy Conway (Burke) could, he did love the guy. But for a guy like Jimmy, he was incapable of being a friend to anybody in the way you and I are. Jimmy was only out for himself. He would have whacked anybody to get more money. This isn't really disputable as we saw the results of Lufthansa. He killed everyone associated and Henry was next in line.
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malley321 — 9 years ago(June 02, 2016 06:02 PM)
I agree. I've heard other people say that Jimmy was crying over Tommy, but I've never had that impression myself. The way Henry was narrating about how excited Jimmy was to have a friend as a made man, it seemed like Jimmy was only happy because of the connections it would bring him, not because he was happy for Tommy. I make no doubt that his tears were mainly, if not totally, due to him losing his opportunity to get closer to the mafia. Henry was a close friend of Jimmy and still he was going to be whacked; I don't doubt that he would have done the same to Tommy if he felt that Tommy was a risk.
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BiffGG — 9 years ago(September 18, 2016 05:28 PM)
I don't feel the same way. Jimmy was not going to do any better than what he was with Paul Cicero. Being made is far from being made a Capo which is where Tommy could only begin to help Jimmy. The problem with Tommy being made in the movie is having to use Henry Hill's filter as to what he wanted the audience to know as opposed to knowing the truth. Being made would be at the high end of accomplishments for Tommy in my mind as opposed to what we see in the movie where it is implied that Tommy will have value to Jimmy down the road in organized crime.
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GreenGoblinsOckVenom86 — 9 years ago(June 05, 2016 09:36 PM)
Just FYI the death of Billy Batts happened in Henry's own restaurant that he had tried to start to get away from the mob. Unfortunatley, they wouldn't let him leave, took over the joint, and when Billy Batts' death happened, that was the final straw for Henry. He'd have to stay in the mob or he'd be put to death. Also the actual death was actually over Jimmy wanting to keep some businesses that had previously belonged to Billy Batts while he was in prison. So in order to keep them he and Tommy killed him.
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Ace_Sax — 9 years ago(September 18, 2016 03:45 PM)
Well said. And it seemed like Paulie was just as much an enabler as Jimmy. For example, the scene were the restaurant owner is pleading with Paulie in regards to Tommy. Paulie says, "Tommy's a bad seed. What do you want me to do". I don't know. Maybe considering how you're his boss and one of the few people that he both fears and respects, you can have a stern conversation with him and put him line. Having a loose canon like Tommy on your crew would be dangerous for everyone.