Main question: Did Hook die?
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norman891 — 14 years ago(February 25, 2012 05:09 PM)
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Good point. And a realistic possibility at that. Though I still want an explanation to a dead stuffed hide belching after Hook disappears inside it.
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nickgrossman83 — 13 years ago(July 06, 2012 07:51 PM)
Hey guys, if your desperate to over analyse this 'death' scene then ponder over this.
As Hook swings his hook at peter while he's trying to un-holster his sword Tink intercepts the swing. As peter grabs the hook and sinks it into the crocodiles belly Tink flies upwards, suppose some of her fairy dust lands on the crocodile momentarily imbuing it with life.
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norman891 — 14 years ago(February 25, 2012 05:07 PM)
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Well there's just one problem. Hook himself says, during his grand entrance & speech to his crew: "And who killed that cunning crocodile? Who had him stuffed (taxidermied)and turned into a quiet clock?"
So the croc was dead, skinned and the hide stretched over a frame.
<When it violates the 'plausible impossible', its fair game. And something dead cannot come back to life of its own volition otherwise Rufio should've been able to come back to life & Pan wouldn't have been going on about "you killed Rufio, you deserve to die" to Hook (wonder if anyone else ever considers what Rufio would've done to Hook, given the chance?).
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nagorskimb — 13 years ago(April 16, 2012 11:54 PM)
The point of the movie is that if you believe something with all your heart, it can and will happen.
Once Peter accepted that he was Peter Pan, and he found a truly happy thought, he could finally face Hook.
Perhaps in that brief instant Hook believed the crocodile would eat him. It's certainly hinted at that he hasn't beaten his fear of the croc.
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norman891 — 13 years ago(April 21, 2012 04:48 PM)
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An interesting and original theory, I'll give you that. BUT if that's the case, why could everyone just wish & hope Rufio back to life?
<Perhaps, but I still find it highly implausible for an hollow, tanned hide to "eat" anything or anyone, let alone belch afterwards. To me, and this just my opinion mind you, it was a cop-out way to get rid of Hook. It's like Spielberg couldn't figure out a really good way to dispose of or neutralize Hook so its back to the old "croc swallows him" thing.
I'm not saying your theory isn't 'possible', its just awfully hard to sell me on it as Hook states that he killed and stuffed (taxidermied) the crocodile; implausible, in other words. Clever theory though.
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halibut-3 — 13 years ago(May 24, 2012 04:28 PM)
If you look closely at the scene when the Croc lands on Hook, there is a lot of dust that suddenly appears. It is possible that because Hook is so old (you do not age in Neverland) that when he was squished and finally passed away, his body lost the immortal properties that Neverland grants you and he turned to dust and ash, much like a corpse would already be if it was as old as him.
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jdkraus — 13 years ago(August 03, 2012 07:05 PM)
I wondered the same thing. If the filmmakers wanted to kill of Hook, they would have shown his death as clear as Rufio's. The more I think about it though, the more I realize that Hook's "disappearance" is purely meant for the viewer to speculate of his fate. After all, "what would a world be like without captain hook?"
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toking65000 — 13 years ago(August 04, 2012 06:48 PM)
I think, like I said, it just follows in the tradition of most all the Pan movies, it's always kinda left ambiguous whether Hook is dead or not.
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Darwinskid — 13 years ago(October 25, 2012 06:48 PM)
Captain Hook did indeed die, the crocodile, with whatever life was left in him, swallowed him whole and didn't chew or spit him out. I honestly don't see why people are even questioning this, there isn't anything else in the rest of the movie to suggest he is still alive and escaped. I do however think, despite the fact that it's visually interesting on paper, that it was a lame way to kill off the character though. Sounds like something somebody would write last minute.
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hoochiemoochie — 11 years ago(August 11, 2014 10:09 PM)
UmmmI think it's clear that however fantastical it may seem, the crocodile was still alive. When Pan shoved Hook's hook into it's belly it let out a scream, dropped the clock from its mouth, peered down at Hook, and growledif it was dead it couldn't do any of that.
Sir Ian McKellen? That dude must be knee-deep in boob.