SPOILER! The absurdities that ruin 'Shattered'
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oprlvr-1 — 18 years ago(June 04, 2007 09:51 PM)
Actually, the flashback scene is from the party Jack was attending that same evening. That's where he was when Judith calls him and he rushes to her home. I agree the film is a decent idea that turns absurb. I also thought, with the exception of Bob Hoskins, that the actors were not at their best.
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jillsman888 — 18 years ago(June 06, 2007 08:15 AM)
You are so right! Bob Hoskins did a great job and I felt him believable all the way through. BUT.I was confused about when the wife had killed the partner's wife and THOUGHt she had killed the detective and said that THEY (the ones she killed) were the only OTHER people who knew Jack's true identity. I can't believe that his BUSINESS partner didn't figure out that he wasn't the same person as before especially when he wasn't very good at 'his' job anymore after the accident. And even if he did LOOK the same, wouldn't his voice be different? Can't believe NOBODY else in the movie figured out something wasn't right
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sadscaryguy — 18 years ago(June 10, 2007 03:31 PM)
Well you guys obviously know thats tom berengers real voice there is no voice change in the movie because back then they didnt have the whole cgi change voice dub thing
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RJ-Flethcer — 18 years ago(June 19, 2007 04:04 PM)
That's true because both parts "parts" were being played by the same actor, but I think the argument being made above is that since we're to believe Tom Berenger is playing 2 different men, each should have his own voice. The fact that they have the same voice is the flaw that is being pointed out.
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starwalker_az — 18 years ago(July 03, 2007 02:17 AM)
Another thing that sort of spoiled it involved Bob Hoskins. He did a fantastic job as Gus Klien, but the idea that his asthma inhaler would allow him to survive being submerged is ridiculous. I use two inhalers for COPD, and the metered spray will not provide breathing support if underwater.
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TrumpIsAHump — 13 years ago(February 23, 2013 08:21 AM)
No, both parts weren't being played by the same actor. Check the cast listing. Scott Getlin played Jack Stanton. I haven't seen the movie in years, but most likely, they had Tom Berenger dub Scott Getlin's lines so that the voices would sound the same.
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BoSoxRule — 12 years ago(December 14, 2013 03:05 PM)
"I haven't seen the movie in years, but most likely, they had Tom Berenger dub Scott Getlin's lines so that the voices would sound the same."
That's exactly what they did. When Stanton is talking to Judith in the car after she kills Dan, he clearly has Berenger's voice.
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DalcassianKnight — 17 years ago(November 03, 2008 11:16 AM)
I thought this was a great movie and well acted. Many of your points here are excellent points but all of them can be logically explained.
First, the obvious.
Blood type Unless the detective and his business partner each took a bllod sample, I doubt they would have noticed a difference in his blood type.
Voice It's entirely possible and in fact likely, that if he had severe lacerations to his face, he may also have had lacerations to his neck and upper torso. After several reconstructive surgeries, he may also have had reconstructive surgery to his throat and larynx which would probably change his voice. Unless somebody is a real jerk, nobody would be so insensitive enough to point it out to him.
Mannerisms having come so close to death and enduring dozens of reconstructive surgeries, having amnesia, it's likely that a person might act a little differently. They might be a little unfamiliar, even towards people who have known them for years. The person may be very meek and mild when they realize they were clinging to life by a straw.
So, although these are all very good points you bring up, it is possible that people noticed his different voice and mannerisms but were just to polite to mention it. -
starwalker_az — 18 years ago(July 03, 2007 02:13 AM)
Not only are his voice and mannerisms different, but he would have no idea how to be an architect. Then you have fingerprints. What about blood type, it would be a stretch of the imagination to believe the husband and lover both had the same blood type.
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abchulett — 18 years ago(January 27, 2008 07:30 PM)
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Suspension of disbelief is one thing. Expecting us to be complete idiots is another; it's called "having no respect for the intelligence of the audience." I was shocked at how bad the movie is at the start; the first 15 minutes is howlingly awful, but then it hooked me for its next hour or so. By then I knew what the ending was likely to be, and I was right, and that was ridiculous too. I won't go into ALL of the spoilers, but how about these: NOBODY could survive that kind of a crash without seat belts and air bags; NOBODY could have repaired his face and body to near perfection; NOBODY could buy the fact that she would go to all that trouble to cover the tracks of someone who was leaving her, especially not knowing that he would have amnesia.
Ugh. Hoskins is SO GOOD in this movie that it almost makes their bungling of the story worse. 3/10. Yikes. -
beauedson — 15 years ago(March 05, 2011 10:46 PM)
the op's post is completely retarded, yours only mostly so. you make one legitimate critique:
"NOBODY could buy the fact that she would go to all that trouble to cover the tracks of someone who was leaving her, especially not knowing that he would have amnesia" (mainly the last part)
this is all that matters because his wife is the only character still in the movie (other than hoskins at the very end w/the rescue) after the doppelganger reveal and the doppelganger switch recognition. he has like two scenes with her, so it's natural for the viewer to ask 'well why would she do it if she didn't know he had amnesia'.
the plausibility of surviving the crash, voice and mannerisms change, degree of precision of plastic surgery - all are totally irrelevant at that point in the movie. it's doppelganger reveal, recognition of doppelganger switch, about two scenes with wife(*), movie over. they do the twist, and they get out fast, and that makes all that other nonsense mentioned by you slothturds matter not.- here, again, viewer questions as to her motives and reasoning should arise
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ilikefunnyrabbits — 16 years ago(April 07, 2009 03:48 AM)
who would be comparing there blood type? It's not like the hospital had a record of stanton or Merrick's blood type on file. And who's checking his fingerprints? I'm sure a high profile architect doesn't have a criminal record or his finger prints on file, so again what/who would they be checking against? And he doesn't know how to be an architect that's the point. It is clearly explained when his partner is looking over his work and says, "Not bad considering you don't know what your doing."
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rstonesfan — 16 years ago(April 15, 2009 05:33 PM)
There is a part in the movie right after they get home the wife says on the phone to a friend his voice is even sexier or something to that degree implying that something had changed. you have to a bit of attention and imgaintation.
