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    chilone — 9 years ago(January 02, 2017 01:58 PM)

    Are you really calling anyone who believes in God, stupid?
    I don't love her.. She kicked me in the face!!

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      Edward_de_Vere — 10 years ago(March 30, 2016 07:34 AM)

      Politically correct outrage is always absurd. We've gotten to the point where you can't have racial/religious/sexual "minority" characters who are anything but heroes or victims on screen without some idiot getting offended and protesting. It seems pretty self-evident to a rational person that if someone makes a film with a homosexual serial killer, he isn't claiming that all homosexuals are serial killers, he's simply acknowledging the fact that homosexual serial killers exist. However, with professional victims and protesters, you aren't dealing with rational people.

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        Marmadukebagelhole — 10 years ago(March 31, 2016 04:00 AM)

        We've gotten to the point where you can't have racial/religious/sexual "minority" characters who are anything but heroes or victims on screen without some idiot getting offended and protesting.
        Can you give a recent example of a significant outcry over a less than favourably depicted minority that wasn't merited?
        Glasgow's FOREMOST authority
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          The-Last-Prydonian — 9 years ago(May 18, 2016 12:01 AM)

          Braveheart
          and
          Cloud Atlas
          , and
          Star Wars Episode 1: The Phantom Menace
          spring quickly to mind.

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            Marmadukebagelhole — 9 years ago(May 18, 2016 01:26 AM)

            I don't recall any significant outcry about any of those films, apart from Braveheart's fairytale historical inaccuracy and The Phantome Menace's testing the patience and nerve of people who had grown up with the original trilogy.
            Glasgow's FOREMOST authority
            Italics
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              The-Last-Prydonian — 9 years ago(May 18, 2016 09:57 PM)

              I don't recall any significant outcry about any of those films, apart from Braveheart's fairytale historical inaccuracy and The Phantome Menace's testing the patience and nerve of people who had grown up with the original trilogy.
              Well there was although I find it difficult to believe you couldn't have heard about them. You'd have to have been living in a cave not to. Sections of the English media accused the film of harbouring Anglophobia. The Economist called it "xenophobic" and John Sutherland writing in The Guardian stated that "Braveheart gave full rein to a toxic Anglophobia". In The Times, MacArthur said "the political effects are truly pernicious. Its a xenophobic film." Ian Burrell of The Independent has noted, "The Braveheart phenomenon, a Hollywood-inspired rise in Scottish nationalism, has been linked to a rise in anti-English prejudice". Also this was another film which has accusations of homophobia directed at it for it's depiction Prince Edward as being a effeminate homosexual.
              Similar criticism was levelled at
              The Patriot
              . another film that funnily enough starred Mel Gibson. Funnily enough,
              Braveheart
              itself face sharped criticism for the way it portrayed
              Are both "Braveheart" and "The Patriot" anti-English (yes) or is it just "Braveheart" (no)?
              Star Wars: Episode 1: The Phantom
              was heavily for having characters that were said to be racist caricatures. The villainous members of the Trade Federation were portrayed like they were Japanese with Jar Jar Binks a Jamaican Rastafarian.
              Seeing racism in Jar Jar is seeing phantom menace
              http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1999-06-05/news/9906050180_1_jar-jar-binks-phantom

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                laurieann74 — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 10:21 PM)

                Here we go once again. Bringing up political correctness. Give it a rest, please.

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                  laslopaniflex — 9 years ago(December 03, 2016 12:45 AM)

                  Also when shortly after the film came out Jeffrey Dahmer, an openly gay cannibal serial killer was caught slightly defeating the argument that gay people should not be portrayed as evil. Like Dennis Nielson before him.
                  Dahmer was stabbed in prison by inmates, and apparently the guards weren't exactly looking out for his protection. It is worth discussing that would a straight cannibal killer have that much hatred, or would they be more feared/respected by inmates/Florida prison guards??
                  "What are you, some kind of doomsday machine, boy?"

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                    Murphed87 — 9 years ago(December 08, 2016 11:51 AM)

                    I can recall that there was also backlash against Jodie Foster for appearing in a film that was considered homophobic. She wasn't officially out at the time despite people already knowing, so the LGBT felt like it was wrong for her to appear in the film.

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                      138 — 3 years ago(August 16, 2022 05:29 AM)

                      It does rely on some bad tropes, but it does at least address that Bill is not actually trans. In hindsight, this is a bit truscum, but fot the time, I can't really blame them for this ignorance.
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                        Mrsfenshi_Star — 3 years ago(August 16, 2022 06:46 AM)

                        Want Jeffrey Dahmer homosexual?

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                          Woodyanders — 3 years ago(August 16, 2022 11:43 AM)

                          Yes, Dahmer was a gay man.
                          You've seen Guy Standeven in something because the man was in everything.

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                            ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(December 05, 2022 12:31 PM)

                            Yes he was and he wasn't a cross dresser.
                            Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                              LorqVonRay1999 — 3 years ago(August 16, 2022 02:36 PM)

                              The LGBTQ is always whining about something.

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                                kuatorises — 3 years ago(November 01, 2022 06:43 PM)

                                It's not homophobic or tranasphobic to have an antagonist that's gay or trans. End of story.

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                                  ☝ — 3 years ago(December 01, 2022 07:42 AM)

                                  Agreed. I think it was established that Gumb had tried several times and was refused surgery, he was also attempting to make a literal woman suit which makes him something other than trans.

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                                    kuatorises — 3 years ago(December 01, 2022 01:15 PM)

                                    Dude could have been a literal trans person and the movie still wouldn't have been transphobic.

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                                      AnthonySocksss — 3 years ago(December 01, 2022 05:30 AM)

                                      People forget that James Gumb wasn’t actually transsexual or gay, he was a disturbed man who took whatever identity he thought would please him.
                                      Melton1 Wanted for Pedophilia:
                                      https://i.ibb.co/6cnPmJVr/IMG-0830.jpg
                                      https://m.youtube.com/shorts/Zjxk307CND0

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                                        WarrenPeace — 3 years ago(December 01, 2022 08:15 AM)

                                        I don't give a **** about any of this ****.
                                        That is a battle and a concern for others.
                                        Not for me.
                                        If it makes trans and gays feel or look bad, whatever.
                                        "Please vote to preserve the unique character of Warren…" - Robert Duvall

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                                          ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(December 05, 2022 12:37 PM)

                                          The complaints were from a whinging minority and were unfounded in the context of the entire film.
                                          There was no representation of Buffalo Bill being a homosexual man, only that he was transexual and his pathology was a thousand times worse as Lecter expressed. He may have been gay, but this wasn't mentioned in the film, (haven't read the book), and since Trans is not an outright sexuality and has nothing to do with homosexual men who revel in their maleness and the male form of others, homophobia is far removed from these distorted claims.
                                          As for transphobia, serial killers come in all forms and that is just the representation here in a fictional story. And since Trans is a mental illness, this story just took it to the extreme side of the disorder spectrum.
                                          Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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