Unlike this movie suggests, psychos ain't complex nor mysterious…
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al666940 — 10 years ago(July 21, 2015 07:58 AM)
"The way Lecter is depicted makes him unusual, exceptional even, and therefore interesting"
Obviously since Hopkins made that. BUT Did you truly want to know more about the character in the movie?
As much as I liked his portrayal, I really couldn't care less about his background. I had hoped the sequel Hannibal would focus on the present (him and Clarice, their dynamic), NOT on his past.
I enjoyed Hopkins, not the character (seemed too unrealistic, only Hopkins could play him juts right).
In Manhunter however, he's written differently (very understated and low key), and Cox played him to perfection. THERE I actually felt like knowing more about him. -
CyberpunkCentral — 10 years ago(December 07, 2015 09:07 AM)
Mads Mikkelsen was a better Hannibal Lecter.
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ForTheNonce — 10 years ago(August 19, 2015 08:53 AM)
If Ted was "a common or garden psychopath", how come he's the most infamous one
By your own logic then, why is Hannibal such a point of interest?
Just because someone is evil or a criminal doesn't mean they aren't complex or mysterious.
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rmoriarty97 — 10 years ago(September 03, 2015 09:43 PM)
The active interest in these types of characters is due to the desire to prevent these types of crimes from happening. That's why the FBI's BSU exists. Of course the average cop on the street is going to say they're nothing but a piece of beep - yeah they are but beep we want behind bars, not loose on the streets.
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MydnightRose — 10 years ago(September 25, 2015 07:11 PM)
This is a generic juvenile bigoted view that usually comes from people who don't want to delve into why a person would do these kinds of things. Bundy Ramirez Gacy etc. were people who chose to do evil and enjoyed it. Calling them crap isn't going to make the hundreds of others just like them dissapear and cease being a threat to us.
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Chefeetaboopers — 10 years ago(December 07, 2015 04:34 AM)
Hun, troll all you want, but no one is really black and white. Even the most bland and generic person has some sort of secret or mindset that you don't know about. Quit pretending you know everything.
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Gabe1972 — 10 years ago(December 21, 2015 08:58 PM)
- This film doesn't suggest that they are.
- This film suggests Lector is, which he clearly is.
- And this should be completely obvious, but a film with a character that is labeled something doesn't suggest that everyone in the real world who is labeled the same thing has the same characteristics as the character in the film. If you think that it does, the world must be tragically disappointing for you.
If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. - George W. Bush
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Jefbecco-1 — 9 years ago(May 20, 2016 02:07 PM)
I'm a police officer. Sixteen years in October of 2016. I've had lots of contacts with those folks who have various emotional and mental conditions. Some are dangerous, some are tedious, some are pathetic, some are sad, some make you angry.well you get the picture. Lector is a fictional creations. The uber villain. That's all. I think he is a very effective creation. I like all the movies.
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Gabe1972 — 9 years ago(May 20, 2016 02:17 PM)
Exactly. It's too bad the OP believes a film representation is trying to say everyone with the same label is like lector. I think some people just shouldn't watch fictional films. They tend to confuse them with real life.
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Edward_de_Vere — 9 years ago(May 25, 2016 02:51 PM)
SoTL's Dr. Lecter is largely responsible for the myth of the genius serial killer.
The small grain of truth behind this myth is the fact that serial killers are significantly more intelligent than the average criminal (as opposed to the average person). The mean IQ of most prison inmates is in the 80's. Serial killers stand out by having IQ's in the high average range (e.g. both Ted Bundy and John Wayne Gacy had IQ scores around 120, manyother prominent serial killers had IQ's of 100-110: competent but nowhere near "genius"), which goes with the territory because someone with an IQ of 80 wouldn't be able to carry out multiple murders for so long without getting caught.
That doesn't mean that most (or any) of them were brilliant Renaissance men who mastered all fields of science, savored the fine arts, and learned a dozen foreign languages when they weren't busy torturing and murdering. Those who think otherwise never learned to separate entertainment from reality. -
pistrix — 9 years ago(October 20, 2016 04:26 PM)
With all due respect you are kind of arguing two different points.
- the intelligence level of serial killers
- what they bother to learn or not learn.
There have been indeed serial killers that have hit above 130 on the IQ test. Ted Kaczynsk sure a bomber injured many and killed 3, his IQ was 167. Rodney Alcala had a 160 IQ. Charlene Williams was also 160.
However, all that aside, yes there can be smart serial killers, there can be dumb ones. Serial killers simply succeed because they are obsessed and driven to do what they want and they plan meticulously. Their first kill is generally not perfect, but they learn from it and change to improve their ways and methods.
But sure some serial killers have been intelligent enough to never be caught, The Zodiac killer comes to mind.
What serial killers bother to learn or not learn is their own choice. It has no bearing on their level of intelligence.
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drgnndblls88 — 9 years ago(September 20, 2016 09:32 AM)
the thing with psychopaths/sociopaths is, once you figure one out, you've figured all of them out.
also, they need us. they can't survive without the rest of the population. on the other hand we can do perfectly well without them, better in fact. -
rmoriarty97 — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 07:24 PM)
Can't get more real and direct than that (they're nothing but piles of crap worthy of nothing but a flush)
He didn't actually mean it like that - he meant that for cops, psychopaths are an obvious and simple problem, like a blocked toilet to a plumber.
Another example could easily have been used. And they obviously aren't such a simple problem, if the FBI believes it necessitates the establishment of a large BSU dedicated to solving it. -
Blue Wave — 3 years ago(December 01, 2022 07:57 AM)
I have read the same thing regarding serial crooks like Charles Manson. I have read what people like John Douglas have written about them which is that they are perfectly aware of what they are which includes the knowledge that they are playing up certain things about themselves as they know they are not that charming in real life.