I think so. Considering BATB ranks just slightly above Aladdin with an 8.1 score, I can imagine it's about 50/50 amongst
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Hunter-Lostie — 10 years ago(April 09, 2015 08:22 AM)
I respect your opinion. Personally, I've never found the animation in BATB to be anything special. The characters in Aladdin are far more likable and colourful, in my opnion; Abu is more entertaining than the enchanted objects in BATB without having to say a single word throughout. And like you said, Jafar is a far superior villain to Gaston. I'd have to agree with you on Jasmine, though. Belle is more developed and overall a better Disney Princess than Jasmine, although I think that even she is quite bland as compared to others such as Anna and Mulan. However, I still disagree that the romance is more significant in BATB I've always thought that Aladdin and Jasmine have one of the strongest relationships of all the Disney couples.
I'd say that the only thing BATB has over Aladdin is Belle. I think the message is fairly similar; people are more than what they seem on the outside (Belle overlooked the Beast's "hideous" looks, and Jasmine Aladdin's "street-rat" manner) But, like I mentioned earlier, I do love them both. -
Stratego — 10 years ago(April 09, 2015 08:39 AM)
Really? I think the animation is amazing and very atmospheric. Some scenes are a bit sloppy because of the time limit the animators had, but the artwork itself is gorgeous, especially the backgrounds. Even though it fits with the Arabic style, Aladdin's animation looks a bit flat and more cartoonish.
Abu is funny, but Lumiere and Cogsworth are just a hilarious duo. Their humour also seems a bit more adult.
The romance between Belle and the Beast IS practically the plot of BatB, so I definitely can't agree it isn't more developed than Aladdin and Jasmine's romance. But don't get me wrong, I love those two together, and they do have one of the best relationships. And I actually like both Belle and Jamsine better than Anna and Mulan. Their sassiness is more my style. -
Hunter-Lostie — 10 years ago(April 09, 2015 09:38 AM)
Some scenes, particularly the ballroom scene, are animated beautifully. But, like you said, some of it also quite rushed in appearance and takes away from the quality. I agree that Aladdin has got a more cartoon-ish style; the colours are very vibrant and such. Neither of these movies adopt my favourite Disney style, which is used in films such as the Lion King, Tarzan and Pocahontas.
Lumiere and Cogsworth
are
hilarious, but there's something so dry and comical about Abu's mannerisms. He reminds me of Pascal, in this sense.
You make a good point there Perhaps I wouldn't say it's less
developed
, more like it's less
realistic
. Though, I know a great deal of people won't agree with me on that one. Aladdin and Jasmine's relationship seemed more believable to me, especially since we got to see how their marriage developed in the sequels.
As far as Anna and Mulan go, I must admit that I have a soft spot for the more clumsy and relatable Princesses. I was able to understand and connect with their ambitions more; I especially appreciate how Disney has began making Princesses who are more self conscious and awkward, like the latter. But I also find Jasmine's sassiness quite inspiring! I'd love to have the same fire and confidence that she does. I'm not sure if I'd refer to Belle as "sassy", but she certainly does know how to stand up for herself. Your favourite Princess completely depends on who you are; there simply isn't
one
Princess who outshines the others. For me, it's Rapunzel, and for you, it's probably someone else.
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Stratego — 10 years ago(April 09, 2015 11:23 AM)
I love Pascal! He's so cute!
Hm, I think Belle is also sassy, although not in the same way as Jasmine. Maybe spunk is a better word?
I don't think I have a favourite princess, for me it's not that important. But despite BatB beig my favourite movie, I don't think Belle's personality appeals the most to me. Jane may not be a princess, but I really do enjoy her goofiness. -
Hunter-Lostie — 10 years ago(April 09, 2015 04:44 PM)
I also love Jane; she's an extremely under-appreciated Disney heroine, in my opinion. But then again, I think Tarzan itself is underrated, considering its stunning animation and moving soundtrack. Not to mention the theme of fitting in where you don't belong, which I believe was portrayed perfectly, especially since it's a children's movie.
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Stratego — 10 years ago(April 09, 2015 05:04 PM)
I think Tarzan is a great movie. It got a lot of appreciation when it was just released, but it has become less over the years for some reason. A simple but effective story, a good plot, fantastic animation, likeable characters and even though it's not my favourite soundtrack, I still like it. Maybe some people can't stand Phil Collins, I'm not his biggest fan either, to be honest.
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Hunter-Lostie — 10 years ago(April 10, 2015 02:22 AM)
I watched Tarzan when I was younger, but didn't realize that Phil Collins did the soundtrack until later on. For this reason, I have no reason to dislike him! His work in Brother Bear is equally as beautiful. Personally, I think that the soundtrack makes us for much of the story in Tarzan and acts as a narrator - it's gorgeous music.
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zsabellaa — 10 years ago(May 02, 2015 08:28 AM)
I think so as well. I love BATB too, i love Belle and as a child i had a weird crush on the beast (LOL, ikr).
But i agree with you:- The humor in Aladdin is make me laugh more than any other disney princess movies (except Mulan, Mulan and Mushu are the most hillarious!) Genie makes me laugh like 20 times throughout the movie.
- I personally think the songs in Aladdin are the second best (the best in my opinion is Pocahontas) followed by Frozen. (what i mean here is the overall songs, not only one main song and the other are rather bland. the songs in aladdin, frozen and pocahontas are all enjoyable.)
- The relationship of Aladdin and Jasmine is one of what i found so real and intense and mature and so relatable. So romantic and its like i almost can feel like Jasmine towards Aladdin!
- Aladdin is my all time favorite disney prince, he's so cute, kind, sweet, and the character development is so great
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Hunter-Lostie — 10 years ago(May 03, 2015 09:53 AM)
I couldn't agree with you more! Aha, don't worry, lots of people had a crush on the Beast.
- The humor is great! The Genie is perhaps one of Disney's greatest comical creations. Mulan is also hilarious.
- Aladdin has my favourite soundtrack, followed by Frozen. Pocahontas has beautiful songs, as well. I especially love "colours of the wind"; it's one of my favourite Disney songs.
- Their relationship is the most realistic of all the Disney Princess/Prince couples. They just mesh so well together! But, my favourite couples of Kristoff x Anna and Rapunzel x Eugene.
- He's my second favourite, after Kristoff. But, I completely agree with you that he's extremely cute and kind! He's willing to do anything to protect his friends and Jasmine, of course.
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Takedi21 — 10 years ago(May 03, 2015 11:53 AM)
- The humor is great! The Genie is perhaps one of Disney's greatest comical creations.
I could not agree with this more. The Genie is my favorite comic relief character in all of fiction. In my personal opinion he is the epitome of a comic relief character done right:
- He's a well-written character first, comic relief second. Despite being a comic relief character the Genie actually has a storyline in the movie. He also had an equal amount of moments in the movie where he was non-comedic, serious, and/or heartfelt in balance with all of his comedic moments.
- He's genuinely funny. Comedy can be a hard thing to write sometimes because sometimes writers write jokes that are intentionally supposed to be funny, but they wind up coming off as unfunny and/or corny. Or in the opposite case there can be non-comedic moments with the character that wind up being unintentionally funny, which was never the writers purpose to begin with at all. With Genie you're laughing with the character, not at the character. He makes jokes that are intentionally supposed to be funny, and you're genuinely laughing at those jokes like you're supposed to.
- He's not an annoying or obnoxious comic relief character. This is really my main problem with a majority of comic relief characters in fiction in general. It's why I didn't like Timon and Pumbaa from "The Lion King" for example, or Batty (ironically also played by Robin Williams) from "Ferngully".
- The humor is great! The Genie is perhaps one of Disney's greatest comical creations.
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Hunter-Lostie — 10 years ago(May 03, 2015 02:44 PM)
You're so right! The Genie is capable of being hilarious, without coming across as obnoxious. Only a few comedy relief characters are able to pull off the amount of screen time he has without being annoying
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Hunter-Lostie — 10 years ago(May 08, 2015 09:35 AM)
I don't agree - I respect your opinion, but I don't agree Personally, I think
Aladdin
is the movie that went beyond what's expected of the genre and presented perhaps the best Disney soundtrack to date, whereas
Beauty and Beast
is merely decent. But, we're all untitled to our own opinions! -
Takedi21 — 10 years ago(May 08, 2015 11:45 PM)
I don't agree - I respect your opinion, but I don't agree Personally, I think
Aladdin
is the movie that went beyond what's expected of the genre and presented perhaps the best Disney soundtrack to date, whereas
Beauty and Beast
is merely decent. But, we're all untitled to our own opinions!
I'm with you.
Aladdin
was certainly a game changer that's for sure! Aladdin was the first animated film to do the whole "Pop culture in-jokes" thing, and it did it/pulled it off
very well
without detracting from the story at all. Also after Robin Williams' excellent performance in Aladdin, it now became a thing for big celebrities (especially comedians) to crossover & do voiceover work for animated films.
Aladdin, IMHO, was the first Disney animated film to effectively blend a genuinely heartfelt story & comedy together, and no other character encapsulates that better than the Genie. Seriously Genie's character (and character arc) epitomize genuinely heartfelt & comedy. -
Relatively_Confused — 10 years ago(May 09, 2015 07:57 PM)
I don't know. I think Disney's best films are Pinocchio and Beauty & the Beast, though both have their flaws. The real genre busting achievement came in 2001 when Hayao Miyazaki released Spirited Away, a film brimming with philosophical ambitions, followed by Pixar's masterpiece Wall-E, both of which are amongst the strongest films of the 21st century.
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Hunter-Lostie — 10 years ago(May 10, 2015 06:52 AM)
Pinocchio is perhaps Disney's greatest achievement, in my opinion. This doesn't necessarily mean that it's my
favourite
Disney movie, but I am able to respect it. Beauty and the Beast is just your average DP flick; it's charming, but nothing special against others such as Cinderella, The Little Mermaid and Tangled. That's just me. As for Spirited Away I agree wholeheartedly when you say that it's one of the strongest films of the 21st century, let alone one of the strongest
animated
films. Walle-E was also spectacular, though not as impressive. Despite all of this, Disney still stands out against any other animation company for me. Nothing beats the magic of Walt Disney. -
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giygas-12533 — 10 years ago(July 02, 2015 10:05 PM)
I love both films but I have to disagree with most of the people hereBeauty and the Beast is just on another level. First of all, I do love Robin as the genie but B&TB just has a more timeless feel, like an old fashioned fairy tale. I also feel it is a darker movie than this one, in terms of atmosphere, colo palette and the story itself. It has more emotional variance and depth than Aladdin. Both are brilliant pinnacles of animation and are close to one another in terms of quality, along with The Little Mermaid, but to me its like this
The Little Mermaid
Beauty and the Beast
Aladdin.
The Lion King is probably on the same level to me as Beauty and the Beast.