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David Giler & Walter Hill killed the franchise

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    successor13326 — 9 years ago(June 19, 2016 02:45 PM)

    You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I'm entitled to disagree with it.

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      wears-alan — 9 years ago(June 19, 2016 02:54 PM)

      As I am with yours.
      You're old enough to kill, but not for voting.

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        successor13326 — 9 years ago(June 19, 2016 06:07 PM)

        Fair enough.

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          Filimon — 9 years ago(June 27, 2016 02:12 PM)

          The whole monks/prisoners in space idea was something Ward litteraly came up with on the plane to first meeting with Fox. It was a wacky idea that would fit into a stand alone film but not in the Alien series. I would have liked his original vision compared to what we got thou.
          Aliens set up a sequel to go in many possible good directions. I Think it could have been on par with the previous entries even.
          It could go into action, horror or a mix of both. It could involve one or more of the surviving characters. Ripley was not nessecarily the focal Point. Her arc was done after Aliens anyway. The notion it had to be so very different compared to the previous was the reason it got so messy. They twisted themselves into a lame compromise that repeated what we had seen Before and done better anyway.

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            wears-alan — 9 years ago(June 27, 2016 02:53 PM)

            Aliens didn't set anything up sequel wise.
            The greatest trick the Devil played was convincing people he didn't exist..

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              Filimon — 9 years ago(June 28, 2016 11:11 AM)

              It absolutely did with 4 survivors! We (as most people watching Aliens) would love to see more adventures with Ripley, Hicks, Bishop and possibly Newt. They were well liked characters that could carry over to Another setting. It would continue something and develop the character relations instead of pressing the reset button like 3 and 4 did.

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                wears-alan — 9 years ago(June 28, 2016 01:40 PM)

                Don't agree.
                The last thing I wanted was Ripley and her Alien hunting family.
                It would have been better if Aliens was the conclusion of her nightmare and Fox had been brave enough to continue without Ellen Ripley. They weren't. But an Alien hunting family would have been too silly for me. Killing them all was sad, but hey, who said life is fair?
                The greatest trick the Devil played was convincing people he didn't exist..

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                  Filimon — 9 years ago(July 14, 2016 10:05 AM)

                  I dont like the Alien hunting family either. But I do Think Ripley and Hicks had a good Chemistry. He was the only character that Ripley really liked and trusted. Like that softness in her Eyes when she is interacting with Hicks. And Bishop was an awesome character by Lance!

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                    wears-alan — 9 years ago(July 14, 2016 10:51 AM)

                    True
                    This is why (imo) Ripleys story should have ended there.

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                      malley321 — 9 years ago(July 15, 2016 10:54 AM)

                      I just read the Gibson script for the first time. I had a general idea of it before hand, but this thread made me curious enough to go read it, and I have to sayit's terrible. I think people are blinded by the fact that it has Hicks and Bishop in it, that they ignore the bad writing. I'm glad it was never made.

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                        Fiery_Boycs — 9 years ago(September 19, 2016 05:44 PM)

                        Ezra Swerdlow - what a fantastic name. And ripe for anagrams! How about:
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                          jetairliner — 9 years ago(February 09, 2017 08:45 AM)

                          Monks on a wooden planetoid in space and all that would seem an amazing idea on paper, but really unfilmable. Ward seemed like a guy who had the right novel ideas but didn't know how to put them into practice.

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