Would you see the Assembly Cut in theaters?
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ripleyclone8 — 9 years ago(January 21, 2017 04:49 AM)
LetThemEatCake01,
I'm sorry to have to say this but you my friend are a complete idiot for saying the TC is better than the Assembly Cut.
Compared to the messy, curtailed theatrical release, the Assembly Cut of Alien 3 is undoubtedly the better one:? ?a clearer expression of Fincher???s original intentions,? ?and a more coherent rendering of a script that was flawed to begin with.? ?Some of the criticisms rightly levelled at the movie still apply?; ?having Hicks and Newt killed so unceremoniously feels less than satisfying,? ?and undercuts the sense of hope they brought to Aliens??? conclusion.? ?But then again,? ?any sequel to Aliens? ?-? ?short of a complete reboot? ?-? ?would have felt extraneous somehow,? ?like an extra chapter appended to a fairytale which already neatly ended with the words,? ??happily ever after.?? -
Snake_MacReady82 — 9 years ago(January 22, 2017 01:36 PM)
ripleyclone8, are all the extra, randomly placed questions marks supposed to lend validity to your argument? Nothing in that mess explains why you feel the AC is superior. I like the AC, mostly, better than the TC, but the TC has its own merits. The "special editions" for the first three Alien films all have good things going for them, but also some bad. I certainly wouldn't throw around unjustified insults at people for making up their own mind on which version they prefer.
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ripleyclone8 — 9 years ago(January 22, 2017 03:53 PM)
Snake_MacReady82,
First off I was on Microsoft Word when I typed out the message and it must of corrupted it when I copied and pasted it. Second off, yes I do have a justified reason for adding a little insult to my reply to the TC lovers because every TC lover I've asked to re-watch the Assembly Cut after I said how superior it was to the Theatrical version of Alien 3 ended up agreeing with me. It is CLEARLY closers to Fincher's vision.
You need to stop trying to defend nonsense and acting like you need to throw in your two sense to make yourself look cool. Snake you even agreed that the Assembly Cut was better so why are you even arguing with me, seriously? -
ripleyclone8 — 9 years ago(January 23, 2017 08:27 AM)
Snake I didn't fail. The Theatrical lovers fail. The Assembly Cut extends the films runtime by 30 minutes. It gives a definitive conclusion for the very important and intriguing character of Golic who becomes crucial to the story later on in the film but just randomly disappears in the Theatrical Cut.
Also many of the so called, "unrecognizable bald prisoners" become true characters in the Assembly Cut because it gives them dialogue, a name and a reason to like them. The Theatrical version does absolutely none of that. Clemens also gets a visually stunning opening in the Assembly Cut when we get to see him alone walking the ruined landscape of Fury 161, only to find Ripley soon after strained out on the beach covered in bugs. What a beautiful intro only to be forgotten in the Theatrical Cut.
Snake I could go on and on about the differences that make the Assembly Cut a much more supieor version of Alien 3. Just because I add a little insult to injury doesn't mean you have to go off on your own team. Anyone who claims to say the Theatrical version is better clearly hasn't watched the Assembly Cut to truly assess that. It's visually factual that the Assembly Cut matches Fincher's true vision of the film NOT the Theatrical Cut people. -
Snake_MacReady82 — 9 years ago(January 23, 2017 11:08 AM)
Assembly Cut matches Fincher's true vision of the film
Is that why he never endorsed it? Why he said he'd have to re-shoot the whole film from scratch to get his vision for Alien3 on film?
Looks like a fail, swims like a fail, and quacks like a fail.
Thit and thpin! -
ripleyclone8 — 9 years ago(January 23, 2017 01:25 PM)
Exactly. You are talking about the theatrical version. And it looks like your agreeing with me so I never failed. You fail and clearly are just trolling because you think its cute and funny when its not. Stop being an idiot.
Fincher has never voiced his opinion on the Assembly Cut like you claim he has. It was the cut finished by both him and Terry Rawlings the editor of Alien 3 before 20th Century butchered it and made the Theatrical Cut.
You clearly want to argue just to argue don't you Snake? Every little short statement you send me doesn't help you one bit. It makes you looking F'in stupid. -
Snake_MacReady82 — 9 years ago(January 23, 2017 02:47 PM)
- How did Ripley get thrown clear from the EEV without being crushed into pink paste, or drowning while drifting to shore?
- Audio is so bad in at least two scenes that subtitles automatically come on. Will not waste money on a blu ray just have a corrected version of this done with actors who will surely sound much older than they did in 1992.
- Alien hatching from a dead ox is not nearly as horrific as bursting from a live dog.
- How was it able to continue gestating after its host died? If it is able to gestate in a dead host, then why didn't hosts in previous entries die immediately upon implantation?
- Grown alien does not remind me of an ox. It had more in common with mid size predatory animal (such as a rottweiler).
- What the eff happened to the other two oxen? Never seen or mentioned again.
- While Gollic's extended story was interesting, *what does it really matter in the end? Cutting it in the TC does not create any plot holes, and after it happens in the AC it is never mentioned again.
- While the extension to the "flush it out and trap it in the waste hold" part is pretty good, *see #7 above.
- While seeing the Mechanic from Fight Club (can't remember the actor's name or his character's name in Alien3) somewhat redeem himself with his sacrifice is pretty cool, he was still a piece of sh!t for trying to rape Ripley, and *see #7 above.
- You mentioned the extra thirty minutes as being a point in the AC's favor. No matter how much you or I may have enjoyed #7-9, others may very well see it as padding because *see #7 above.
- Seeing the Queen burst from Ripley not only removes any nagging doubt that just
maybe
(but not likely) she could've been saved, but that damn thing was really taking its sweet time. - Fincher definitely has never endorsed the AC as his complete vision for Alien3. Check the trivia section. One part of it mentions something along the lines of a Director's Cut being impossible, even after Fox offered him the chance to do it.
As you can see, there are some reasons for why some fans might prefer the TC and no reason to be a like-an-opinion when someone expresses views that are not perfectly in line with you own.
Until next time, may the Failure be with you, always.
Thit and thpin!
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Snake_MacReady82 — 9 years ago(January 23, 2017 09:07 PM)
Just because I pointed out some flaws in your thesis? I prefer the AC (the extended scene with Mr. Clemens and Superintendent Andrews alone is enough to make me overlook most of the flaws it has, and actually like #7-9 in my previous post), but like the way the TC did some things better. This gives viewers enough justification to enjoy the TC more than the AC if they so decide, with no skin off my teeth.
I
love
neither and never claimed otherwise. When I had clicked on this thread, I was going to say that I
would
go to see the AC in a theater. But then you turned out to be a like-an-opinion and an epic failure. If you get butt hurt when people someone politely disagrees with you on a topic that you brought up, then don't bother starting one in first place.
Got any good counter-arguments to the points in my last post? Or just more snobbish derision? Maybe say something bad about my mother?
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ripleyclone8 — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 04:57 PM)
No you didn't. No one really did. For some reason Snake you feel the need to preach about Alien 3. Not just in this thread but in others. How about you join AVPgalaxy.net and talk in the forums. IMDB is IMDB AvPgalaxy.net is the true pulse of the Alien community and the fans.
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