Chaplin a PEDOPHILE?
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redai02-1 — 15 years ago(January 31, 2011 10:57 AM)
Yeahpeople who for some reason are ignorant on the fact that at that time (and centuries before, really), being married at 16 to a much older man was commonplace; hell, in the middle ages to be 18 and unwed was unthinkable. So try not to judge historical figures based on the times we ourselves live in. Except for a few cases, our thought processes don't apply.
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BoultersCanary — 15 years ago(March 30, 2011 10:20 AM)
That 'report' (gossip, actually) was in one of Kenneth Anger's 'Hollywood Babylon' books, which really ought to be subtitled "Bullstuff about the film industry by a jealous nobody"
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Mattfinbell — 12 years ago(September 28, 2013 05:48 PM)
redai02-1
Yeahpeople who for some reason are ignorant on the fact that at that time (and centuries before, really), being married at 16 to a much older man was commonplace; hell, in the middle ages to be 18 and unwed was unthinkable. So try not to judge historical figures based on the times we ourselves live in. Except for a few cases, our thought processes don't apply.
well the life expetency wasnt in your 30. So People were not expected to live in there 90 heck even in there 100 let alone 103!
George Burns died before turning 102
tubularbelle2003
There have been reports that he met Lita when she was just 6 years old and groomed her until she was of an age to marry.
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mikey1969 — 13 years ago(July 08, 2012 03:03 PM)
Well, in the first place, if Paulette was 26, then there is no way that he would be a "pedophile", since by definition, it is a person who is sexually attracted to children, not sexually attracted to 26 year old women.
In the second place, the correct term would probably be "ephebophile".
In the third place, it all depends on the age of consent where the marriages took place. It's one thing if they are 13 year old girls, but 16, 17 years old?
In 30 states, and the District of Coulmbia, the age of consent is 16.
IN 8 states, it's 17.
This means that the age of consent of 18 is actually the minority, not the majority
Just something to chew on
http://www.ageofconsent.us/ -
Mattfinbell — 12 years ago(September 28, 2013 05:50 PM)
mikey1969
Well, in the first place, if Paulette was 26, then there is no way that he would be a "pedophile", since by definition, it is a person who is sexually attracted to children, not sexually attracted to 26 year old women.
In the second place, the correct term would probably be "ephebophile".
In the third place, it all depends on the age of consent where the marriages took place. It's one thing if they are 13 year old girls, but 16, 17 years old?
In 30 states, and the District of Coulmbia, the age of consent is 16.
IN 8 states, it's 17.
This means that the age of consent of 18 is actually the minority, not the majority
Just something to chew on
http://www.ageofconsent.us/
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A_Fistful_of_Pennies — 13 years ago(July 31, 2012 06:51 AM)
Times were indeed different, but he was criticized even back in the day for it. He married his first wife because their relationship would have been illegal otherwise if I'm not mistaken and he probably had sexual relations before what was considered "the age of consent" back then.
So yes, Chaplin was wrong for this, but it doesn't take away from his artistic genius and my enjoyment of his films. Unfortunately all great minds tend to be troubled in their personal lives in some way. -
Strazdamonas — 13 years ago(August 18, 2012 05:03 AM)
no. A pedofile is one that craves young girls that are not secually mature yet. Woemn get sexually mature in te age of 11-14. Once that happens, its not pedofilia, just illegal.
I didnt knew that he marrid a 16 year old, so that was new to me, and i found it kinda odd (not that much that he married but more that the movie didnt leave it out as they usually do). But i dont blame him as long as the marriadge was agreed by both parties.
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Lord_Gyaldhart — 13 years ago(August 30, 2012 08:49 PM)
I see that lots of people here in this thread do not even know what pedophile really means, instead they contribute to an ignorant witch hunt accusing people of it left and right.
To those people I say; If you can not tell the difference between a pre pubescent person (a REAL child) and an adolescent, then you are closer to a real pedophile than you would like to admit.
Also, I can not help to notice how no one in this thread seemed to have understood how the movie handled Chaplin's obsession with young women. Clearly he was crazy in love of Hetty Kelly, she and Oona (his last wife) were the true loves of his life (and they are both played by the same actress Moira Kelly to highlight this symbolism.)
Chaplin was very affected first when Hetty turned him down, then when he heard she got married, and he was devastated when he learned about her early death.
He met Hetty when she was 16 years old (by the way, before the inquisition gets all crazy here, even nowadays the legal age of consent in England is 16), and for the remainder of his life he was looking for Hetty in other women, which is why he always looked for women of about those ages, until he meets Oona and finally settles with her for the rest of his life.
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Mattfinbell — 12 years ago(September 28, 2013 05:53 PM)
Lord_Gyaldhart
He met Hetty when she was 16 years old (by the way, before the inquisition gets all crazy here, even nowadays the legal age of consent in England is 16), and for the remainder of his life he was looking for Hetty in other women, which is why he always looked for women of about those ages, until he meets Oona and finally settles with her for the rest of his life.
Well did you know gay love was illegal at that age until recently -
rasheed_node — 13 years ago(September 07, 2012 02:25 PM)
Paranoid and narrow minded people like you in the US grossly mistreated a true genius like Chaplin. I could never understand how a maniac like J. Edgar Hoover can be and remain the chief of FBI for 50 years! Was there no American alive in those 50 years who can kick that lunatic out?
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Mattfinbell — 12 years ago(September 28, 2013 05:59 PM)
rasheed_node
Paranoid and narrow minded people like you in the US grossly mistreated a true genius like Chaplin. I could never understand how a maniac like J. Edgar Hoover can be and remain the chief of FBI for 50 years! Was there no American alive in those 50 years who can kick that lunatic out?
Well its not just america look at Middle east China Latin America and other countries like North Korea. For J Edgar I am guessing he greased alot of palm during his day
BobsBrotherFutureman
Pedophilia implies a relationship with a pre-pubescent minor, doesn't it? Dating/marrying a 16/17 year old does not make one a pedophile, in Chaplin's day or today.
It does if your gay