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    bellissimo_10 — 20 years ago(April 09, 2005 08:53 PM)

    i just saw this film and loved it. I know very little abut charlie chaplin but by the looks of this film, it was to portray his character alone, like the last poster said. It proved that america ruined his life, even though he did nothing to them. They called him a communist, pedifile, jew, against politics, a nazi, etc. He was a man passionate about his films and wanted to entertain people.
    Before this film, most people probably thought he was a loser as a person because of how america depicted him, especially j.edgar hoover. This film shows people he was a good man.
    I don't think any of you guys saw what the film was all about.

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      ram-solo — 20 years ago(May 06, 2005 04:20 AM)

      I totally agree with the last two posts.
      Everybody knows his work was exceptional.
      This film was about showing that he as a person too was exceptional'
      He has inspired so many people worldwide ..
      To date we can see this in so many films
      In India alone .. Raj Kapoor made a career in hommage to Chaplin. a film 'Mera Naam Joker' where RK portrays a clown with a life motto of smile & make smile, his earlier roles inspired by Chaplin's tramp character (Awaara, Anari, Jis Des Mein Ganga Rehti Hai amongst others.) RK also made opportunities to fresh ideas & a similar unity of producers similar to what Chaplin did with United Artists.
      Even this year Sanjay Leela Bhansalis film 'Black' about a dumb deaf girl & her teacher showed inspirations of Charlie Chaplin.
      Coming back to Attenborough's film. It inspired me no end.
      One of my best films of all time. Mainly because it was about him not his films.

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        Diaeresis — 20 years ago(May 17, 2005 03:33 PM)

        Mainly because it was about him not his films.
        Indeed a point seemingly lost on some previous commentators. To those that would berate the movie as not sufficiently covering his artistic expertise, the title should explain the reason : "Chaplin", i.e. the person & his life experiences, not a documentary of film-making skills.
        As for the earlier comment about him being a "perverted paedo" or whatever the poster said mate, you clearly need to get some life experience under your belt and try to avoid labelling people in such a way.

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          dio52 — 20 years ago(October 04, 2005 03:00 AM)

          I, as with the previous few posters, agree that the movie was an exploration of the person behind the Charlie Chaplin of the screen.
          Also, there's a difference between having a penchant for 16 year old girls and real pedophilia. a 16 year old girl may have some lingering immaturities, but is hardly as naive as a child. the fact that numerous US states and many other countries set the age of 16 as the age of consent (for both sex and alcohol) further bears that out. there's a reason that statutory rape is treated differently by the law than child abuse or child molestation.

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              Tanjy — 17 years ago(May 16, 2008 01:38 PM)

              This was not a documentary about Chaplin's greatness as an artist. That goes without saying. But the man himself had many many dark places and that's the movie. It's the story of the man, not his art.

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                ansbro-2 — 17 years ago(May 28, 2008 01:25 AM)

                Seeing the movie helps you understand why Chaplin was stuck in the silent era.
                He wasn't expressive.
                He was a nut case.
                I like Downey, but all the acting in this movie was very wooden.
                That has to be the directors fault.
                I liked "A Bridge Too Far", but Richard Attenborough is exhausted.
                He looked like they dug him up to do this movie.

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                  kronos251 — 17 years ago(February 20, 2009 06:54 AM)

                  ansbro-2, you don't friggin know the real meaning of a nutcase.
                  Charlie Chaplin was FAR, FAR from being a nutcase.
                  Man, read his autobiography, or watch this film again and try to understand.
                  Going through such transitional periods the turn of 20th Century, living below poverty line in England, sordid family disputes and personal/romantic misunderstanding despite vast financial successes demands a sound mind, or better yet, a tremendous sense of humor. Chaplin had both. If he didn't, then he'd end up like his mother in an asylum back in merry old England.
                  After a second viewing, I came to like this movie. Sure, at first I found it depressing, but that's cause I knew very little of Charlie Chaplin, aside from his famous works.
                  I believe this movie did the man, Chaplin, justice, which he truly deserved. Someone pointed out that his own real-life granddaughter Geraldine, played Hannah Chaplin his mother in the film. I think that little-known fact truly reconfirms that the Chaplin family approved of the accuracy of this movie.
                  Quoting Chaplin, "Through humor, we see in what seems rational, the irrational; in what seems important, the unimportant. It also heightens our sense of survival and preserves our sanity."
                  The man was a genius. And a humble one at that.
                  Try not. Do or do not. There is no try.

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                    parisel — 12 years ago(April 04, 2013 10:14 PM)

                    kronos, Geraldine Chaplin is his daughter, though he was more than old enough to be her grandfather.
                    I guess it's like looking at clouds. You see one thing and I see another. Peace.

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                      kronos251 — 12 years ago(April 05, 2013 01:12 PM)

                      yes, she was his daughter, thanks parisel. It's been quite a while since I wrote that post 4 years ago, lol. I probably misquoted somebody, or did a typo.
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                        Lady_Kayura — 16 years ago(December 12, 2009 05:41 AM)

                        Wasn't expressive? Oh ansbro, please go on to youtube and look up the Great Dictator speech. It is one of the best speeches I have ever heard concerning the expression of one's feelings about something. In fact, here:
                        Please watch it. As a future Social Studies teacher, I plan on showing this each year and get my students talking.
                        He was avoiding talkies. He just thought that if films were going to have talking than they better have something damn important to say.
                        A revolution without dancing is a revolution not worth having.

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                          geordiebianconeri — 16 years ago(December 25, 2009 07:19 AM)

                          In contrast, I was not a Chaplin fan before seeing this movie - and as for many people of my generation (30-something), the odd out-of-context, and therefore not particularly funny, clip that was all we usually got to see on TV did not do the man justice.
                          But this film encouraged me to realise what a genius Chaplin was, explore his work, and I now own many of the films he made. By which criteria, the film is a success
                          "Wait till they get a load of me!"

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                            ender_wiggen — 16 years ago(December 27, 2009 09:26 PM)

                            you want to see the life he wanted you to see, go watch his movies. you want to see the tragedy of chaplin, watch this film. even in success, he was a sad man.
                            Animation is viagra for art

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                                prgwbtd — 20 years ago(July 16, 2005 09:44 PM)

                                I'm somewhere in the middle on this subject. I enjoy the film because at this time, it's the only one that gives us a glimpse of Charlie as Charlie. However, I don't enjoy it because much of it never happened - at least the way it is portrayed. No, obviously the film was not about his work, but it would have been nice to see a part of that aspect. Chaplin said himself in his autobiography "My life is my work," and he did put that ahead of his personal life. I think some of his personal struggles were hard to place because most of the time they were directly related to his work. His work is what makes Chaplin, Chaplin to us.
                                What bothered me most was the unlikeness of the actors to their actual counterparts. Robert Downey Jr. was able to pul off Chaplin (somewhat) only when he was in complete makeup. Otherwise he didn't look enough like Chaplin. I found it more distracting than anything else. Finally, if you read Chaplin's autobiography, you know how events in his life really played out. It's like R. A. completely ignored many of these events and re-wrote them to his liking.
                                I like the premise of showing Chaplin's personal life, but it needed to be balanced with more of his work mentioned or shown, and a little more truth involved.

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                                  morganseer — 13 years ago(August 09, 2012 10:29 AM)

                                  Wow. To say that McCarthy and Hoover were demonized, is almost like saying that Hitler was demonized.

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                                      r287 — 20 years ago(August 02, 2005 06:18 AM)

                                      Wasn't this film made or with the blessing of like his daughter or something? I think this was anaccurate depiction of the real thing whereas you were hoping it would just be the glory days through rose-tinted glasses.

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                                        rainybklynight — 20 years ago(August 18, 2005 03:37 PM)

                                        I loved this movie. True, Charlie hated people talking about his life, but in the end, did he not write his autobiography, so people would know the whole story, not just the tabloid scandals. He was very misunderstood; he wasn't a pedophile. There could never be a better biographical film on him. It's emotional, insightful, and you can relate. What more can you ask for. IMO, it's waaaay underrated.

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                                          rizdek — 20 years ago(August 30, 2005 06:24 PM)

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                                          In direct response to the first poster, I liked the movie Chaplin. Downey JR did a fine job, and since I wasn't a student of Chaplin, I came away with a better sense of who was the person behind his many great movies.

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