7.2? Hello, this movie is sick!!!
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CheeryToes — 16 years ago(February 23, 2010 08:06 PM)
Robert Downey, Jr. is one of the most brilliant actors of my time. That's my humble opinion. He may be screwed up personally, have all kinds of problems, he might even be a raging moron - but when the lights come on, he's sublime and I believe him in everything I've seen him in.
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mad_roke — 14 years ago(December 05, 2011 04:18 AM)
Stuff like Avatar are masterpieces of their own. They revolutionized the whole CGI.. but the story is just Poccahonthas in space. Why Chaplin is voted that low, considering many other great films, is a riddle to me.
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Kidrah — 15 years ago(April 16, 2010 02:14 PM)
I have to agree that 7.2 is quite low. This is one of the rare movies i would give a perfect 10. It captures the Chaplin era, beautifully. And Downey is one guy who commands your attention when on screen. You just cant take your eyes off him.
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JoeytheBrit — 15 years ago(July 17, 2010 03:07 PM)
It might be because, although it's a well-made film with a career-best performance from Robert Downey Jr, it does have flaws. The framing device, in which Chaplin chats to his biographer (or publisher) played by Anthony Hopkins, is clumsy and filled with unwieldy chunks of exposition. But the film's biggest failing is that it gives a fairly unbalanced view of the man, portraying him in an almost saintly light. There's no mention of the shooting of Thomas Ince (it was believed Ince was mistakenly shot by William Randolph Hearst, who had allegedly discovered Chaplin was conducting an affair with Marion Davies); there's no mention of tax avoidance charges totalling $1.3 million in the 1920s; there's no mention of his extra-marital affairs; there's no mention of the ego which drove him to cut most of Buster Keaton's scenes from Limelight because he could see that Keaton's performance overshadowed his own in the scenes they shared; there's no mention of his decision to destroy the unreleased 1926 film A Woman of the Sea to (legitimately) avoid paying taxes on it.
I'm not pointing all this out because I dislike Chaplin, but because I believe any person is defined as much by their flaws and failings as they are by their better qualities. Chaplin was a genius, but he was a flawed genius - something which this film fails to show.
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fearnotofman — 14 years ago(May 15, 2011 06:48 PM)
He was indeed a flawed genius, but
1.) Your view seems tainted. A Woman of the Sea was by all accounts a bad film that Chaplin never wanted released anyway. Why pay for a piece of junk sitting in the attic? I have to pay taxes on this crap? Then it has to go. If I have an old car sitting in my driveway that will never be driven again, I'll get rid of it instead of paying insurance on it every month. There is also no evidence of Chaplin cutting Keaton's scenes in Limelight. His widow said Keaton loved his appearance in the film and apparently Keaton was even given some flexibility to adlib, which is something Chaplin rarely allowed his actors to do.
2.) The film is already 2 1/2 hours long. Something had to be cut. I would also argue against Chaplin made to be a saintly figure. While he is portrayed overall in a positive light, his ephebophilia and his failures in relationships (largely his own fault) is clearly shown and talked about, for example. -
Gus-69 — 15 years ago(March 03, 2011 06:52 AM)
7.3 is too high, if you ask me. This morose and old-fashioned biopic got a 6 from me.
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InCole — 15 years ago(April 04, 2011 04:42 PM)
I agree, 7.2 is a bit low, but I guess this movie didn't have enough CGI and explosions for the average viewer who just wants to watch something like Avatar and not care about the story gaps, character development etc they just want to have stereotypes of good bad and evil shoved in their face
I gave it a 8/10. It really is a great piece of work and from what I've read up on it after I watched it. It's as accurate as can be without having to actually hear it from Charlie Chaplin himself.
The movie was both touching and showed everything that one who loves the works of Charlie Chaplin would want to see, from both his professional career to his personal life. -
BrotherReed — 14 years ago(October 31, 2011 01:17 PM)
7 is too high. Chaplin is a movie about a great entertainer, lead by a great entertainer mimicking him, that is not greatly entertaining. Actually, it's not even greatly coherent. This movie bites off way more than it can chew, giving only the most cursory glance at the life of Charlie Chaplin despite taking well over 2 hours to do it, moving so quickly it's hard to even know what's going on. You get to know virtually none of the characters outside of the lead. The film on the whole simply can't overcome this great fault, despite Downey's excellent performance which is the sole reason to recommend the film. Don't feel like you have to stick up for this movie on Downey's account, or on Chaplin's. Their work stands on its own.
In the time it takes to watch this film, you could probably watch two original Chaplin silents - say, The Kid and Modern Times, or The Gold Rush - and you would come out both more entertained and with a better idea of Chaplin's genius and his influence on film.