Saw it coming…
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darkzero — 19 years ago(February 19, 2007 01:03 AM)
I was only 12 when I first saw the promos for this back in 1993, and the moment I saw Dil, I thought to myself, "I bet that's a man." And when I saw the film for the first time, the instant I saw and heard Dil, I knew it had to be a male. However, I did not expect this to be revealed in the film (I never heard about the movie having a twist), assuming that TCG, being an artsy/indie type film, Jay Davidson was just a transvestite trying to play a real woman.
Jaye Davidson is androgynous, not feminine. Anyone who was genuinely surprised by the "twist" would be easily burnt by a bad drag queen.
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gamer3000 — 19 years ago(February 28, 2007 04:14 PM)
I thought she looked like a man and when she started taking off her clothes I knew it wasn't going to be pretty, but I was still shocked/disturbed as hell when she turned out to be a he and it got me more than any other movie i've ever seen.
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Ferpty — 19 years ago(March 11, 2007 06:02 PM)
This conversationI think this is the wrong aspect of the relationship to be considering. Some people were surprised, many weren't. I, myself, did not know the twist before I watched it, and I thought Dil was a man before it was revealed. BUT, I think what is more important is if the relationship still works. Even though Fergus is obviously repulsed when he finds out, they still stay together. And, I found myself rooting for them to work. AND, it wasn't as if it negatively affected my perception of Fergus either. Somehow Neil Jordan managed to force the viewer to reevaluate the relationship while leading us, or at least me, to accept the unconventional (or even deviant) connection between Fergus and Dil. Did everyone else want them to work too?
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mikyway — 19 years ago(March 19, 2007 12:43 PM)
The first time I saw this film (now a favourite of mine) my boyfriend (now ex-boyfriend) was at first genuinely attracted by Dill and said she was very sexy and seemed to enjoy the film a lot.. when it was evident Dill was not a "she", he was totally SHOCKED and confused and was even angry at me because I chose such a film! What a jerk.. no wonder I dumped him in the end!
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Byzantine15 — 18 years ago(July 10, 2007 03:51 PM)
I think it was mainly the bone structure of the face, particularly the jaw, that made me suspicious. I told my date "I think Dil's a TV." (I guess that that abbreviation was less ubiquitous than I thought so I had to explain.) Later when Dil went down on him but wouldn't let him touch her/him it seemed even more plausible. At the moment of truth my date went "Gasp, you were right!" With benefit of hindsight, I wish I'd talked her into a wager.
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Osujin — 18 years ago(August 10, 2007 04:18 PM)
As soon as Dil was introduced, I immediately thought to myself, "There's a slight chance I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's a guy" and when the twist came, I felt proud of my deduction (I laughed pretty loud actually). For me it was the face and voice combination; I might have excused one, but the combo made the fact stand out.
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darth_sidious — 18 years ago(September 03, 2007 02:39 AM)
The clue that Fergus was probably inclined towards the other side is evident when he pulls out Forest's penis in the woods.
Fergus knew that Dil was a man, he got suckered in because love clouded his judgement. I think him being sick was not because he was duped, but he realised who he actually was, and had to confront himself.
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Redrum237 — 18 years ago(November 10, 2007 07:06 AM)
I think this was pretty obvious. Two big hints were when the bartender began to tell Fergus that there's something he should know about Dil (but gets cut off) and when Fergus reaches for Dil's crotch when they're making out and s/he grabs Fergus' hand and takes it away (before he finds out the truth).
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Rie4973 — 14 years ago(August 29, 2011 09:29 AM)
I kinda figured when Dil was singing at the Metro, I was like, "Damn she's got some big hands! Wait a minute."
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alli2001 — 14 years ago(October 31, 2011 12:52 AM)
I think those responses are pretty sad and it nearly broke my heart when Fergus' response was to go throw up. How cruel.
That being said, I also pegged Dil as male/transgender very early on. In fact, as soon as she appears, I was thinking the eye makeup seemed very over-the-top and then as soon as she spoke I knew something was off, but thought that maybe I was overanalyzing. Honestly, for most of the movie I was trying to fight that initial reaction and convince myself that Dil was a plain ol' girl. But then of course, the scene where the hairdressers clap and of course the scene where she pulls away when Fergus/Jimmy tries to touch her basically convinced me that my initial reaction had some real weight.
I think men can make themselves into beautiful women. I think the actor did an amazing job of being a convincing woman, and was drop dead sexy, but by the time the robe came off, I wasless than shocked. I think it was a combination of the voice and the subtle clues left by the director that tipped me off.
